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#5881  Postby ronmcd » Jul 04, 2019 10:57 pm

PM's sudden passion for her Precious Union is as palatable as a cup of wet sick

As did May’s attempts to blame Nicola Sturgeon for the breakdown in relations between the UK and Scottish governments. It was the Scottish first minister who was doing her best to ensure devolution failed in order to trigger a second independence referendum, while she had worked tirelessly to make Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland have a small say in their own affairs. Which might have been more convincing had she even once consulted the devolved governments about the Brexit process or not presided over the 900-day absence of a power-sharing executive in Northern Ireland. Or done a confidence and supply arrangement with the DUP and alienated the rest of Northern Ireland for that matter.


Still, she did have some strong words on Brexit. Well, strongish. After paying lip service to the fact that Scotland had voted overwhelmingly to remain, she argued that it was their duty to suck it up because of ... well, the union.


Not that there was much chance of either Boris Johnson or Jeremy Hunt paying a blind bit of notice to a word she had said – why break the habit of a lifetime? – at the leadership hustings in York an hour or so later. Both men have long since realised that the 160,000 Tory members who will make one of them prime minister are totally deranged – most would throw Scotland under the wheels of one of Johnson’s imaginary wooden buses and marry Ann Widdecombe for a WTO Brexit – and have been outdoing one another to prove who is insane enough to be their leader. It can’t be long before transportation to the colonies, bear baiting and compulsory obesity for all five-year-olds will be government policy.
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#5882  Postby GrahamH » Jul 10, 2019 6:04 pm

So the clown king of Brexit who called for British 'independence' and 'sovereignty' is now kowtowing to Trump who gets to tell us who we can have as ambassador. He's made us weak and desparate for any deal Trump wants to give us. And he's threatening to prorogue parliament to shut down the mother of parliaments.


Sickening.
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#5883  Postby Scot Dutchy » Jul 11, 2019 11:16 am

Does not Trump want Farage as ambassador? I am quite Boris Arsehole will oblige him.
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#5884  Postby GrahamH » Jul 11, 2019 11:51 am

Scot Dutchy wrote:Does not Trump want Farage as ambassador? I am quite Boris Arsehole will oblige him.


I should think anyone Trump want as ambassador is someone we should not appoint.
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#5885  Postby Svartalf » Jul 11, 2019 11:58 am

well, if you want skilled and honest personnel, you certainly are right, but remember an ambassador has to have personal interaction with him, so somebody he actuallly likes is a nonnegligible advantage.
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#5886  Postby ronmcd » Jul 11, 2019 12:45 pm

Except with previous, some might say "normal" Presidents, the ambassador's personal relationship with him wasn't relevant. The ambassador's relationships were with the State Dept and officials. Today it's all about Trump, and twitter.
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#5887  Postby Svartalf » Jul 11, 2019 12:50 pm

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#5888  Postby ronmcd » Jul 11, 2019 1:55 pm

Me, I'm really looking forward to Trump sending US Marines in to free Tommy Robinson Stephen Yaxley-Lennon from his disgraceful incarceration today.

BWAHAHAHAHAH!

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#5890  Postby Scot Dutchy » Jul 11, 2019 2:12 pm

His mum looks from immigration stock?
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#5891  Postby zerne » Jul 11, 2019 2:26 pm

Svartalf wrote:well, if you want skilled and honest personnel, you certainly are right, but remember an ambassador has to have personal interaction with him, so somebody he actuallly likes is a nonnegligible advantage.


In the interests of the "speacial relationship" an Ivanka lookalike might do the job.
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#5892  Postby GrahamH » Jul 11, 2019 2:54 pm

zerne wrote:
Svartalf wrote:well, if you want skilled and honest personnel, you certainly are right, but remember an ambassador has to have personal interaction with him, so somebody he actuallly likes is a nonnegligible advantage.


In the interests of the "speacial relationship" an Ivanka lookalike might do the job.


Then Britain really would be fucked.
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#5893  Postby zerne » Jul 11, 2019 3:04 pm

GrahamH wrote:
zerne wrote:
Svartalf wrote:well, if you want skilled and honest personnel, you certainly are right, but remember an ambassador has to have personal interaction with him, so somebody he actuallly likes is a nonnegligible advantage.


In the interests of the "speacial relationship" an Ivanka lookalike might do the job.


Then Britain really would be fucked.


Lookalike, not actalike. :thumbup:
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#5894  Postby Svartalf » Jul 11, 2019 3:27 pm

well, she would have to, if she didn't want frump to throw a tantrum of epic proportions.
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#5895  Postby ronmcd » Jul 11, 2019 7:06 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:His mum looks from immigration stock?


I can only feel sympathy for whoever actually is Waxy-Lemmon's mum. Unlike Hopkins

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#5896  Postby ronmcd » Jul 11, 2019 7:11 pm

I mean, I already thought we were fucked. But Liz FUCKING TRUSS?

Boris Johnson has begun receiving very public job applications from would-be cabinet ministers, with Liz Truss pitching to be a tax-slashing chancellor and Amber Rudd ditching her opposition to a no-deal Brexit in a bid to stay on as work and pensions secretary.

With Johnson on the brink of No 10, senior Tories have begun laying out their credentials for positions in his potential cabinet – some with more hope than others.

Truss told journalists on Thursday that she wanted to be in the “engine room of the economy” driving growth, citing as her favourite chancellor Nigel Lawson – a Thatcherite Brexit supporter who denies climate science.

She praised Lawson for cutting the top rate of tax to 40% in 1988, and set out her view that the Conservatives must not be afraid to reduce taxes for higher earners, claiming this would contribute to economic growth.

Asked by the Guardian to respond to Jeremy Hunt’s criticism that Johnson’s plan for lowering the higher rate of tax threshold made them seem like the party of the rich, she said: “If we are never, ever prepared to cut taxes for people earning £60,000 I think that is a problem … I mentioned Nigel Lawson earlier. In his budget in 1988, he cut the top rates of tax … What it led to is an economic revolution in our country and we have to be prepared to make those arguments.”

Truss, who at one point referred to herself as “the Truss”, stuck closely to Johnson’s script on Brexit and said Theresa May’s deal was a “dead duck”, despite having voted for it three times and Johnson having voted for it once.

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#5897  Postby OlivierK » Jul 11, 2019 11:22 pm

Just imagine of the worst outcome, and then expect worse than you imagined.

That's worked for the last three years.
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#5898  Postby ronmcd » Jul 12, 2019 8:38 am

OlivierK wrote:Just imagine of the worst outcome, and then expect worse than you imagined.

That's worked for the last three years.

:shifty: Oh god, what if there's another Truss sibling, like the Johnson clan, taking over politics.
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#5899  Postby Scot Dutchy » Jul 12, 2019 10:02 am

The worst case scenario was always on the cards for Brexit. It was never taken (and still is in many quarters) seriously.
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#5900  Postby zerne » Jul 12, 2019 8:17 pm

Andrew Neil interviewed both candidates tonight. I only managed to catch the one with Boris Johnson. Neil did his homework, picked up on the obvious nonsense of Boris' GATT 24 crap as Boris, placing all confidence in paragraph 5b admitted he did not know what 5c contained.

Andrew Neil: Do you know what's in paragraph 5c?
Boris Johnson: (points emphatically) No.
Andrew Neil: I thought you were a man of detail?
Boris Johnson: (flummoxed noises)
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