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#1  Postby chairman bill » Apr 21, 2013 8:03 pm

The coalition is the government, and thus Coalition Watch isn't appropriate for the batshit crazy & just plain nasty bollocks that emanates from the Nazty Party alone. Hence this thread - whatever my disdain for the LibDems in Parliament, they don't deserve to be tarred with the same brush as the Tories in other contexts.

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Labour wades into race row over multiracial West Sussex academy
Tory councillor lambasted for 'openly racist' remarks over prospect of minority ethnic students moving to Stedham village

Labour has called on David Cameron to take action against a Conservative councillor who has made what appear to be "openly racist" remarks about the prospect of ethnic-minority schoolchildren from London studying in West Sussex ...

... John Cherry, the district councillor for Stedham ward, told the Mail on Sunday he had serious concerns about the effect the London pupils would have on the area.

"Ninety-seven per cent of pupils will be black or Asian," he said. "It depends what type of Asian. If they're Chinese, they'll rise to the top. If they're Indian they'll rise to the top. If they're Pakistani they won't."

He said while there were certain nationalities who valued hard work, there were also "certain nationalities where they are uncertain what this hard work is all about".

Cherry also appeared to suggest that keeping the students confined to the school premises would prove very dangerous.

"If the children are not allowed out of the site then it will make them want to escape into the forest – it will be a sexual volcano," ...
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Re: Tory Party watch

#2  Postby Aca » Apr 22, 2013 8:12 am

he's gone

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ho ... 81755.html

Tory councillor John Cherry resigns over 'openly racist language' after saying 'there are certain nationalities where they are uncertain what this hard work is all about'
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#3  Postby DarthHelmet86 » Apr 22, 2013 8:15 am

He is a bit of an idiot it seems. Sexual volcano, don't need to lock teens up for that to be true at all. And with some lovely racism on top, just to rub in how little he understands.
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#4  Postby theye1 » Apr 22, 2013 8:17 am

Freedom of Speech =/= Freedom from Consequences of Speech
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Re: Tory Party watch

#5  Postby Aca » Apr 22, 2013 8:17 am

DarthHelmet86 wrote:He is a bit of an idiot it seems. Sexual volcano, don't need to lock teens up for that to be true at all. And with some lovely racism on top, just to rub in how little he understands.


from the same article

His biography on the website says the "committed Christian"


whatever happened with "Love thy neighbour"?
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#6  Postby DarthHelmet86 » Apr 22, 2013 8:20 am

Is committed Christian now the code word for racist and sexist?
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#7  Postby Aca » Apr 22, 2013 8:22 am

DarthHelmet86 wrote:Is committed Christian now the code word for racist and sexist?



I'd hope not and not from most of the religious people i know, but somehow, most of the time when i read a bigoted or homophobic comment, some god is behind it somehow...
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Re: Tory Party watch

#8  Postby DarthHelmet86 » Apr 22, 2013 8:24 am

Most of the religious people I know wouldn't call themselves committed Christians. Seems to me adding the committed in front is a code word for fundamentalist now a days. Of course that might be because I just don't hear about the committed Christians who don't do or say horrible shit.
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#9  Postby ED209 » Apr 22, 2013 8:29 am

Aca wrote:
whatever happened with "Love thy neighbour"?


Oh, I'm sure he's a big fan of the show :smug:
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#10  Postby Scarlett » Apr 22, 2013 8:37 am

DarthHelmet86 wrote:Most of the religious people I know wouldn't call themselves committed Christians. Seems to me adding the committed in front is a code word for fundamentalist now a days. Of course that might be because I just don't hear about the committed Christians who don't do or say horrible shit.


I'm not so sure. In the UK I reckon 'committed Christian' would just mean anyone who goes to church every week and isn't embarrassed about their wibble :dunno:

They're so few and far between now.
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#11  Postby Scarlett » Apr 22, 2013 8:48 am

DarthHelmet86 wrote:Is committed Christian now the code word for racist and sexist?


Yes, but you forgot "homophobic" :coffee:
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#12  Postby Aca » Apr 22, 2013 9:02 am

edit: i think this post might be a bit out of place. :mrgreen: sorry about that :)

Years ago, i was with a group of friends for a weekend break in a holiday place in Gozo, Malta's sister island. we were a rather mixed group in every respect. There were several gay people, one muslim, most of them single, with exception of my better half and me. The only connecting thing was that we were all friends for several years and have been going out partying together for as long.

One of the people that was with us was the most religious (and most educated with a PHD, at that point, from all of us) girl, that in every respect epitomised good in people. She was doing charity work all the time, she was extremely nice and polite with everyone...really real deal good person.

As the night, and quantity of alcohol consumed, progressed, the conversations become more of a slightly pissed philosophical/political musing between us. The topic turned to religion and somehow it slowly turned into a debate between her and me, with the rest just listening and maybe just occasionally interfiling.

To cut the long story short, after an hour of back and fourth, i asked her if she could ever consider a guy like me as a potential life partner? I asked her to find me one characteristic of mine which she finds unacceptable. She found none. I asked her if there is anything i do or did that would make her concerned or that she would have done differently? She said no, and admitted that in many ways, she would gladly settle down eventually with a guy like me. Which was great compliment, just that she said that she would never actually do it.

Reason? Because i was not catholic and she could never bring her self up to be with someone who was not catholic too. Obvious implication was that non-catholics were, well, lower creed and not equally worthy. Needles to say, the room we were sitting in went silent. My jaw was on the floor. Those few seconds of awkward silence were broken down by my better half who re-directed the topic in another direction (or just asked if anyone wants another drink :D).

And there it was, at least for me, the revelation. I knew she was religious and "true" believer, i did not mind that, nor did anybody in the room care about lifestyle, sexuality or religion or lack thereof of anybody else. We all appreciated each other and enjoyed the company and shared thoughts, fun, and laughter. And yet, at least in her opinion, our gay friends, our muslim friend and obviously me are going to hell and she is not, we are the sinners and she was not, she had the right creed, we did not. If there was not for her religion, she would have never ever thought that (at least i have no reason to believe she would).

Religion poisons everything and sadly, sometimes even the beautiful minds of really, really good people.
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Re: Tory Party watch

#13  Postby mrjonno » Apr 22, 2013 9:05 am

The coalition is the government, and thus Coalition Watch isn't appropriate for the batshit crazy & just plain nasty bollocks that emanates from the Nazty Party alone. Hence this thread - whatever my disdain for the LibDems in Parliament, they don't deserve to be tarred with the same brush as the Tories in other contexts.


That's harsh the Tory party give their nazty voters what they want, part of the democratic process. Reserve my real anger for the Lib Dem's who totally betrayed anyone who voted for them
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#14  Postby chairman bill » Apr 22, 2013 8:34 pm

The Nazty Party who run Cornwall's council have fucked up. Looking for ward to the legal challenge on this ...

Cornwall Council acts unlawfully and disgracefully in bedroom tax matters
http://speye.wordpress.com/2013/04/22/cornwall-council-acts-unlawfully-and-disgracefully-in-bedroom-tax-matters/

Cornwall Council has made every single bedroom tax decision in error and is now telling tenants they have no right to appeal these unlawful bedroom tax decisions ...

... The NHF figures suggest there are 2974 bedroom tax affected social tenants in Cornwall Council area and the cost to the Council of having to go back and do these bedroom tax decisions again properly will cost Cornwall Council millions (cont).
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#15  Postby CdesignProponentsist » Apr 22, 2013 11:22 pm

Seems like if you take a Tory party and place them in a republic you get a Tea Party. Weren't they at odds just two score and a couple hundred years ago. :scratch:

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Re: Tory Party watch

#16  Postby Horwood Beer-Master » May 24, 2014 2:08 pm

"I respect ridiculous populist dickhead", says callous unlikable dickhead.

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#17  Postby Horwood Beer-Master » Jul 29, 2014 5:31 pm

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Re: Tory Party watch

#18  Postby Peter Brown » Jul 29, 2014 7:31 pm

I guess this thread has started because the pre election crowd pleasing campaign has commenced.

Starting with Chris Grayling bleating: Young offenders will have their cell lights and televisions turned off at 10.30pm sharp to enforce earlier bed times; spanky or is it spunky if your from Cambridge bottoms if they don't behave?

Meanwhile Cameron attacks those nasty invaders with 3 months of benefits, but still fails to show any evidence these Vikings pillaging the Giro actually exist, and Boris hosts a delayed attack on white van man scheduled for 2020.
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#19  Postby Calilasseia » Jul 29, 2014 9:26 pm

Scarlett wrote:
DarthHelmet86 wrote:Most of the religious people I know wouldn't call themselves committed Christians. Seems to me adding the committed in front is a code word for fundamentalist now a days. Of course that might be because I just don't hear about the committed Christians who don't do or say horrible shit.


I'm not so sure. In the UK I reckon 'committed Christian' would just mean anyone who goes to church every week and isn't embarrassed about their wibble :dunno:

They're so few and far between now.


Unfortunately, whenever we see people declaring themselves to be "committed Christians", this invariably translates as "my magic man only likes rich white straight people, and I'm really happy about this".

Meanwhile, there's a phrase, first used in anger way back in 1949, which sums up neatly the xenophobia endemic to many Tory heartlands, and describes the position of many living therein - "wogs begin at Calais". Though my memory may be imperfect with respect to this, I seem to recall none other than Princess Michael of Kent getting into some hot water reviving this phrase in the 1980s, but that's a tangential diversion I'll try and resolve at some other time. Meanwhile, the rise of Farage and UKIP, the subsequent attempts by the Tory Party to pander to the requisite xenophobia, to try and stem the possible haemorrhaging of votes in 2015, and the remarks covered above in the OP, all point inexorably to that phrase being a shamefully accurate description of the mindset to be found in Greater Toryshire.

Meanwhile, no one who has watched the pernicious development of Republican JesusTM in the USA, along with dangerous theocratic fantasies tied to Dominionism, should be in the least surprised to see assorted right-wing fantasists importing the same venomous ideological cocktail here. A cocktail which has, with disturbing success over in the USA, married a rampantly plutocratic vision of the future to fundamentalist religion, in a manner that should be giving both Pope Francis and the leaders of the Anglican Communion some serious headaches.
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Re: Tory Party watch

#20  Postby chairman bill » Jul 30, 2014 6:43 pm

I really wouldn't want to tar the LibDems with this - it really is a Tory matter, albeit the 'client' is a coalition minister

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