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angelo wrote:No matter how long the process takes, the divorce of England from the EU is set in motion and nothing can stop it.
“A future Parliament can decide to stop the Brexit process in its tracks simply by repealing any act or any statute that the Government, as a result of today’s decision, manages to pass.”
UK-based airlines told to move to Europe after Brexit or lose major routes
Exclusive: Fears for UK jobs as EU officials say airlines will need to move base and majority of shareholders to fly routes within Europe
EU chiefs have warned airlines including easyJet, Ryanair and British Airways that they will need to relocate their headquarters and sell off shares to European nationals if they want to continue flying routes within continental Europe after Brexit.
Executives at major carriers have been reminded during recent private meetings with officials that to continue to operate on routes across the continent – for instance, from Milan to Paris – they must have a significant base on EU territory and that a majority of their capital shares must be EU-owned.
The development, coming days before the triggering of article 50, potentially makes it more likely that the carriers will act to restructure, with economic consequences for the UK, including a loss of jobs.
The tough line from the EU may encourage the UK to reciprocate with its own nationality rules, which would leave EU-owned airlines facing equally difficult choices, potentially dampening their investment in the UK in the short term, although some may seek in time to establish their own British subsidiaries.
The ability of companies such as easyJet to operate on routes across the EU has been a major part of their business models, and there may be a renewed willingness among airlines to invest outside the UK to maintain market share.
Some airlines have already started to seek alternative headquarters, and to examine how they might ensure that their shareholding is majority-EU owned, possibly through the forced disinvesting of British shareholders.
But others have appeared, until now, to hold out hope that the European commission would be flexible on the rules in the current aviation agreement.
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Scot Dutchy wrote:angelo wrote:No matter how long the process takes, the divorce of England from the EU is set in motion and nothing can stop it.
It can be stopped at anytime.“A future Parliament can decide to stop the Brexit process in its tracks simply by repealing any act or any statute that the Government, as a result of today’s decision, manages to pass.”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-ruling-mps-stop-article-50-triggered-constitutional-lawyer-geoffrey-robertson-a7543571.html
nunnington wrote:Pity the workers, though.
nunnington wrote:A lot of the arguments now are about hard Brexit, or leaving the EU, and reverting to WTO rules. There are reports that the headbangers in the cabinet want this, and see it as an opportunity to deregulate work, the environment, and social services, so that workers' protections rules are abandoned, along with welfare. Globalization means that companies look for low wages and low taxes, so the UK could become an ideal place for this. Pity the workers, though.
Like sheep, the British people, regardless of whether they support Brexit, are being herded off a cliff, duped and misled by the most irresponsible, least trustworthy government in living memory. The moment when article 50 is triggered, signalling Britain’s irreversible decision to quit the EU, approaches inexorably. This week, on Black Wednesday, the UK will throw into jeopardy the achievements of 60 years of unparalleled European peace, security and prosperity from which it has greatly benefited. And for what?
ronmcd wrote:Guardian editorial:Like sheep, the British people, regardless of whether they support Brexit, are being herded off a cliff, duped and misled by the most irresponsible, least trustworthy government in living memory. The moment when article 50 is triggered, signalling Britain’s irreversible decision to quit the EU, approaches inexorably. This week, on Black Wednesday, the UK will throw into jeopardy the achievements of 60 years of unparalleled European peace, security and prosperity from which it has greatly benefited. And for what?
Ooft.
The moment when article 50 is triggered, signalling Britain’s irreversible decision to quit the EU, approaches inexorably.
Alan B wrote:From the Guardian link above.The moment when article 50 is triggered, signalling Britain’s irreversible decision to quit the EU, approaches inexorably.
I thought somewhere in this thread (can't be bothered to search) someone had shown that Article 50 was reversible?
Triggering Article 50 can be reversed, according to the lawyer who wrote it
The lawyer who drafted all of the EU's treaties also warned of '15 years of economic pain' after the UK left the EU
Triggering Article 50 does not mean it cannot be later revoked, according to a leading EU lawyer who helped write it, who also warned of “15 years of economic pain” immediately after the UK leaves the European Union.
“My opinion is that there is no legal provision in Article 50 providing that when you give your intention you cannot change your intention, so I think it’s possible legally,” lawyer Jean Claude Piris told Sky News.
Mr Piris was a key figure in the drafting of both the Maastricht and Lisbon Treaties, the two documents that formally created European Union. Until Lisbon, which was signed in 2007, no formal process existed by which a country could exit the EU
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angelo wrote:The Guardian has as much credibility as The Daily Mail hasn't it?
angelo wrote:The Guardian has as much credibility as The Daily Mail hasn't it?
Scot Dutchy wrote:ronmcd wrote:Guardian editorial:Like sheep, the British people, regardless of whether they support Brexit, are being herded off a cliff, duped and misled by the most irresponsible, least trustworthy government in living memory. The moment when article 50 is triggered, signalling Britain’s irreversible decision to quit the EU, approaches inexorably. This week, on Black Wednesday, the UK will throw into jeopardy the achievements of 60 years of unparalleled European peace, security and prosperity from which it has greatly benefited. And for what?
Ooft.
That is the way it is seen here. While the rest of the EU realise there are real problems in the EU they dont swan off into the blue horizon but get down to work with each other and AGREE on a future for the EU. The UK just never has understood what cooperation means. Now the EU can move forwards into a better future now with the UK going into full reverse. Cove is claiming the EU regulations will be scrapped turning the UK into a third world country. What is good for India is good for England.
Byron wrote:
As I said over on the iScotland thread, looks like the Blairites -- the Observer's a nest of 'em -- have something planned. Alistair Campbell addressed the weekend's EU march in London, and has joined the New European's editorial board. Osborne's of course the new Evening Standard editor. And the man himself is lurking.
The EU may not be rid of the UK just yet.
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