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Re: UK EU Referendum

#7041  Postby Scot Dutchy » Apr 16, 2017 5:58 pm

:rofl:

You would think so.
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Re: UK EU Referendum

#7043  Postby Scot Dutchy » Apr 21, 2017 9:57 am

Well if you have the arrogance to call a club and everyone involved in it everything bad under the sun. Then you decide to leave you have no right to expect the tiniest of cooperation now would you.
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#7044  Postby GrahamH » Apr 21, 2017 11:14 am

Only economic study showing benefits of Brexit debunked as 'doubly misleading'

The sole economic modelling exercise showing material benefits for the UK from Brexit has been debunked as “doubly misleading”, further demolishing the argument that for Britain “no deal would be better than a bad deal” when it comes to the EU.
Work by the “Economists for Brexit” group, led by Professor Patrick Minford of Cardiff Business School, before last year’s referendum suggested that if the UK left the EU without a trade deal and unilaterally dropped all tariff barriers on imports the country’s GDP could be boosted by 4 per cent relative to otherwise.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/busin ... 91271.html
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Re: UK EU Referendum

#7045  Postby Scot Dutchy » Apr 21, 2017 12:04 pm

The Brexiteers will not agree. They never do.
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Re: UK EU Referendum

#7046  Postby mrjonno » Apr 22, 2017 7:28 am

Anyone noticed The Sun is now warning of the dangers of cutting back on immigration as we need the workers

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3378915/setting-a-low-rigid-figure-for-immigration-is-pointless-if-it-leaves-employers-short-of-workers/

You really couldn't make it up!
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Re: UK EU Referendum

#7047  Postby Scot Dutchy » Apr 22, 2017 7:43 am

mrjonno wrote:Anyone noticed The Sun is now warning of the dangers of cutting back on immigration as we need the workers

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3378915/setting-a-low-rigid-figure-for-immigration-is-pointless-if-it-leaves-employers-short-of-workers/

You really couldn't make it up!


Just like the rest of the Brexiteers they have not got a clue.
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#7048  Postby Scot Dutchy » Apr 22, 2017 10:18 am

While the UK is being put to the back of the queue by Trump, May is being tied up with the EU:

Anti-EU ministers show 'invincible ignorance' over European Court, says top ex-judge


Exclusive: As part of our Road to Brexit series, former European Court of Justice judge Sir David Edward warns that withdrawal from the court will not be simple


A former judge at the European Court of Justice has slammed the “invincible ignorance” of Brexit-backing ministers who believe they can free the UK from the court’s influence.

Professor Sir David Edward told The Independent he was “astonished” at what he called misleading promises of autonomy from the court, made by Brexiteer politicians.

Theresa May is expected to make stripping the court of its power in the UK an election pledge when the Conservative manifesto is published, but Sir David’s outburst follows new Brexit negotiating guidelines from the EU which show the bloc will demand the court keeps a role in Britain.

His words also come alongside those of other academic and political experts underlining how difficult it will be for the Government to maintain its hard-line stance towards removing the court’s role in British life.

As the Government moves towards Brexit talks, former judge Sir David said severing ties with Europe’s highest court in Luxembourg will not be as simple as “Leave means Leave.”

He said he was “astonished” by the “invincible ignorance” of many ministers, calling claims that Britain will be able to achieve autonomy from the European Court of Justice (ECJ) “misleading” if it later plans to trade with EU member states.

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Re: UK EU Referendum

#7049  Postby solazy » Apr 22, 2017 10:51 am

After Brexit, let's take a leaf out of Tony Blair's book of quotations and tell the Welsh to fuck off as well (and the Scots and Irish).

http://www.welshnotbritish.com/2014/08/ ... welsh.html

And yes, we have also been overgenerous to the Picts.
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Re: UK EU Referendum

#7050  Postby ronmcd » Apr 22, 2017 10:58 am

solazy wrote:After Brexit, let's take a leaf out of Tony Blair's book of quotations and tell the Welsh to fuck off as well (and the Scots and Irish).

http://www.welshnotbritish.com/2014/08/ ... welsh.html

And yes, we have also been overgenerous to the Picts.

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Re: UK EU Referendum

#7051  Postby solazy » Apr 22, 2017 11:13 am

The Scots are heavily interbred, something the English are not. Scottish clan system has led to less gene diversity over the centuries. If I ever went north of the border and drove back down Scotland's best road, the one that leads to England, I would drive into Carlisle just to see some nice looking women.
This fact is overlooked and probably explains why the Scots want the EU and England do not.
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Re: UK EU Referendum

#7052  Postby ronmcd » Apr 22, 2017 11:28 am

solazy wrote:The Scots are heavily interbred, something the English are not. Scottish clan system has led to less gene diversity over the centuries. If I ever went north of the border and drove back down Scotland's best road, the one that leads to England, I would drive into Carlisle just to see some nice looking women.
This fact is overlooked and probably explains why the Scots want the EU and England do not.

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Re: UK EU Referendum

#7053  Postby solazy » Apr 22, 2017 12:01 pm

Is that a picture of you?
Population of Scotland hardly ever rises. Scots wanting opportunity more or less have to leave the place. Those that remain have little to do other than spend most of their time drinking or on the golf course. Was there ever a sport designed for loafing quite like golf, on land of no value.
Just imagine an independent Scotland. They will have to work! Unless they do a Greece and fleece the EU.
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Re: UK EU Referendum

#7054  Postby Corneel » Apr 22, 2017 1:00 pm

We're going to need some acid and fire here.
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Re: UK EU Referendum

#7055  Postby Scot Dutchy » Apr 22, 2017 2:22 pm

Well are we surprised?

Leave.EU under investigation over EU referendum spending


Electoral Commission launches inquiry into campaign headed by Nigel Farage and Arron Banks over involvement of data firm


The Electoral Commission has launched an investigation into “potential offences” by Leave.EU over its spending during last year’s EU referendum campaign.

The campaign group, which was headed by Nigel Farage and the businessman Arron Banks, is understood to have worked with the data firm Cambridge Analytica, which uses social media to influence voters.

Cambridge Analytica’s involvement was not declared to the election watchdog, which has concluded that Leave.EU has a case to answer. If the commission decides that political spending laws have been breached, it can report the campaign group to the police.

In response to the elections watchdog’s announcement, Farage tweeted:

"Could the timing of this be anything to do with the general election?"

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Re: UK EU Referendum

#7056  Postby ronmcd » Apr 22, 2017 3:16 pm

solazy wrote:Is that a picture of you?
Population of Scotland hardly ever rises. Scots wanting opportunity more or less have to leave the place. Those that remain have little to do other than spend most of their time drinking or on the golf course. Was there ever a sport designed for loafing quite like golf, on land of no value.
Just imagine an independent Scotland. They will have to work! Unless they do a Greece and fleece the EU.

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Re: UK EU Referendum

#7057  Postby Scot Dutchy » Apr 23, 2017 12:33 pm

Oh dear and the Brexiteers will not be happy:

Brexit: EU demands Britain pay divorce bill in euros not pounds


Leaked document reveals a tougher stance from the EU, which has already said Britain might have to pay 60 billion euros as a condition of exiting the bloc


Britain must settle its Brexit divorce bill in euros rather than pounds, the European Union has said.

Leaked documents suggest the EU has toughened its stance in recent weeks, diminishing Britain's hopes of striking a trade agreement before leaving the bloc.

"An orderly withdrawal of the United Kingdom from the Union requires settling the financial obligations undertaken before the withdrawal date," said a European Commission document seen by media organisations including AFP and Politico.
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Who still thinks the EU will not get tough?
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#7058  Postby Scot Dutchy » Apr 27, 2017 11:23 am

Mutti is telling the tantrum child off:

Angela Merkel attacks British 'illusion' of keeping benefits of EU


German chancellor says UK cannot have same rights as member states nor negotiate trade relations before agreeing to pay its bill


Angela Merkel has said British politicians are still living under the “illusion” that the UK will retain most of its rights and privileges once it leaves the European Union.

Addressing her parliament ahead of this weekend’s EU summit at which European leaders will formally adopt Brexit negotiation guidelines, the German chancellor said: “Countries with a third country status – and that’s what Great Britain will be – cannot and will not have the same or even more rights as a member of the European Union. All 27 member states and the European institutions agree on this.”

“Ladies and gentlemen,” she continued, “you may think that all this is self-evident. But I have to put this so clearly because I get the impression that some in Great Britain still have illusions about this, and that is a waste of time.”

Merkel also said it made “no sense” to negotiate a future UK-EU relationship without agreement on the UK’s financial commitment to the EU, while also hinting that parallel discussions could be possible once questions about budget contributions had been satisfied.

“We can only make a deal about Britain’s future relationship to the EU once all questions about the terms of its exit can be clarified to a satisfying degree.

“That means the sooner the British government is prepared to find constructive solutions, the sooner we can engage with their desire to already talk during the exit negotiations about the future relationship between the United Kingdom and the European Union. But first we need to know how Great Britain sees its future relationship with us.”

Merkel said all 27 members agreed that this could be the only order in which the talks could proceed.

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Re: UK EU Referendum

#7059  Postby Scot Dutchy » Apr 27, 2017 11:56 am

The banks are not waiting around:
Banks Get Serious About Moving Jobs to Frankfurt on Brexit


“Nothing concrete happened last year, but that all changed in the first quarter of this year,” said Carsten Ape, head of office leasing for Germany at U.S. property broker CBRE Group Inc. “Banks are now looking in earnest at specific locations.”

The uncertainty triggered by Britain’s decision to leave the European Union has prompted banks to consider setting up new hubs in the EU to secure continued access to the bloc. Goldman Sachs Group Inc. and Citigroup Inc. are considering choosing Frankfurt as their EU base, people with knowledge of the situation said in January.

Part of Frankfurt’s appeal is that it’s the cheapest major financial center in the European Union to live and work, according to property broker Savills Plc. The combined annual cost of renting an apartment and the per-employee office space expense totaled just under 30,000 euros ($33,000) in the German city, less than half that of Paris.

“There won’t be enough for everyone,” said Juergen Schmid, who leads Savills’ property-investment business in Frankfurt. “That will in turn increase the demand for offices in less attractive locations, and the rent that can be charged for them.”

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Re: UK EU Referendum

#7060  Postby Tzelemel » Apr 27, 2017 12:04 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:While the UK is being put to the back of the queue by Trump, May is being tied up with the EU:

Anti-EU ministers show 'invincible ignorance' over European Court, says top ex-judge


Exclusive: As part of our Road to Brexit series, former European Court of Justice judge Sir David Edward warns that withdrawal from the court will not be simple


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More proof of the complete ignorance of the Brexiteers regarding the workings of the EU.


Well, this comes as no surprise. Remember how during the EU referendum, the Brexiteers complained about unelected judges in Brussels? Of course judges are unelected! You don't elect the judiciary, the same way you don't elect doctors.

(Yeah, I know the Americans do it, but they're just crazy.)

Scot Dutchy wrote:The banks are not waiting around:
Banks Get Serious About Moving Jobs to Frankfurt on Brexit

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Also no surprise there.
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