THWOTH wrote: When a big kid comes into the playground with a stick in his hand and starts thwacking and making demands then I'm all for picking up a stick and teaching them a lesson, there is no good reason why everybody else should put up with that kind of anti-social behaviour - but who actually has the biggest stick in the playground here, and is keen to use it to get exactly what they want? Eh?

Nicko wrote:

THWOTH wrote: When a big kid comes into the playground with a stick in his hand and starts thwacking and making demands then I'm all for picking up a stick and teaching them a lesson, there is no good reason why everybody else should put up with that kind of anti-social behaviour - but who actually has the biggest stick in the playground here, and is keen to use it to get exactly what they want? Eh?

When considering US foriegn policy, I'm always reminded of the old saying (Japanese, I think):

To a man with a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.

Terry Rotter wrote:It's like talking to Christians. You live in some sort of parallel universe that works entirely differently compared to mine. Simply useless. I just hope that you are very untypical secularists and leave it at that.

THWOTH wrote:totalitarian death cults having them unless they're nominally liberal and a friend of America called Israel

Nicko wrote:If you define it as a religion, then it is as much a "liberal democracy" as any Islamic Republic that happens to hold a popularity contest every couple of years

Festeringbob wrote:wow, i call poe, no honest person would post such a senseless diatribe

Terry Rotter wrote:Alright, one further remark: We should ultimately bring down every dictatorship. But we can obviously not just attack countries like Saudi Arabia and Pakistan that claim to be our allys and at least to some degree behave like it. It would be more effective to make them adopt human rights. I they don't comply, we will see what to do about it. Also, we can not fight every dictatorship at once. Of course strategy has to be a part of it, too. We should't go around and blindly attack everyone, that's just silly, no one thinks this.

The US has the greatest military power in the world.

With great power comes great responsibility. Did Spiderman teach you nothing?

The comments from some of you about Israel were absolutely disgusting and anti-semitic.

THWOTH wrote:totalitarian death cults having them unless they're nominally liberal and a friend of America called Israel

It is simply beyond belief. Nothing about Israel is anything like a totalitarian death cult. It is factually a liberal democracy with equal rights for Jews, Muslims, Christians, everyone. The fact that it is a Jewish state results from 2000 years of pogroms against Jews. It is their sanctuary. And you call it a "death cult"! Who was your teacher? Hitler? Because this is the exact same kind of stuff we get to hear from the German Nazi parties.

Nicko wrote:If you define it as a religion, then it is as much a "liberal democracy" as any Islamic Republic that happens to hold a popularity contest every couple of years

You have no idea what you're talking about. I just hope you don't go around and burn down synagogues because they are too religious for you.

Fucking awful.

You just hide anti-semitism behind an antitheist mask. To just equate everything remotely religious to Islamic terrorists is truly insane and beyond all responsibility.

Terry Rotter wrote:The US has the greatest military power in the world. With great power comes great responsibility. Did Spiderman teach you nothing?

Terry Rotter wrote:

THWOTH wrote:totalitarian death cults having them [nuclear weapons] unless they're nominally liberal and a friend of America called Israel

It is simply beyond belief. Nothing about Israel is anything like a totalitarian death cult. It is factually a liberal democracy with equal rights for Jews, Muslims, Christians, everyone. The fact that it is a Jewish state results from 2000 years of pogroms against Jews. It is their sanctuary. And you call it a "death cult"! Who was your teacher? Hitler? Because this is the exact same kind of stuff we get to hear from the German Nazi parties.

Terry Rotter wrote:The US has the greatest military power in the world. With great power comes great responsibility. Did Spiderman teach you nothing?

Nicko wrote:If you define it as a religion, then it is as much a "liberal democracy" as any Islamic Republic that happens to hold a popularity contest every couple of years

You have no idea what you're talking about. I just hope you don't go around and burn down synagogues because they are too religious for you.

Fucking awful. You just hide anti-semitism behind an antitheist mask. To just equate everything remotely religious to Islamic terrorists is truly insane and beyond all responsibility.

How about apologizing to the Jews for calling their country totalitarian and a death cult?

Terry Rotter wrote:No, it does not. Israel is the refuge of the Jews because they have been persecuted everywhere. It is policy to keep a majority of Israelis ethnically Jewish because the Palestinians want to dissolve Israel and subvert the Jews as soon as they become a majority in Israel as they had done before 1948. However, those Christians, Muslims and everyone else who lives there have equal rights. In fact, there even are Muslim politicians in Israel who want Israel to be destroyed. And most of the Jews in Israel are secular. You are terribly uninformed and you repeat ideas of the very worst sort of people there are.

Terry Rotter wrote:It is a representative democracy, that is the political system of Israel! Human rights are guaranteed and people, including Muslims, elect their leaders. Nothing like this could be said of any Muslim country nearby.

Terry Rotter wrote:It is a representative democracy, that is the political system of Israel! Human rights are guaranteed and people, including Muslims, elect their leaders. Nothing like this could be said of any Muslim country nearby.