Are Genocides Associated with Atheists?

Why were many of history's most brutal regimes authored by atheists?

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Re: Are Genocides Associated with Atheists?

#1001  Postby truelgbt » Nov 21, 2021 4:13 am

The Chinese Communist Party under which the Uyghur Genocide has occurred and continues to occur is an ATHEIST organization:

Quote: "China has the world's greatest irreligious population, and the Chinese government and the ruling Chinese Communist Party (CCP) IS OFFICIALLY ATHEIST."

Irreligion in China - Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Irreligion_in_China

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreligio ... atest,(CCP)%20is%20officially%20atheist.
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Re: Are Genocides Associated with Atheists?

#1002  Postby truelgbt » Nov 21, 2021 4:20 am

Spearthrower wrote:In the U.S., the 3 companies which provide insurance for Christian churches report more cases filed each year for the sexual abuse of children by PROTESTANT churches than Catholic.

https://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/16/us/16protestant.html

Of course, they're ALL CHRISTIAN churches, run and operated by CHRISTIANS, so we can simply total them up and point to the travesty of an institution which claims moral high ground while its clergy are running round fucking children.


I totally expect bad behavior, illegal behavior, and sexual abuse within the Catholic Church AND the Protestant Churches.

These are RELIGIOUS organizations who prop themselves up at the cost of those members who attend regularly on Sundays but are not necessarily BORN AGAIN Christians.

A true Christian is Born again; there is no other. This is why Jesus said in the Bible: "I tell you the truth, unless you are born again, you cannot see the Kingdom of God.” Jesus NEVER said you must be a member of a church, or Catholic or Protestant but Born again.

Further, Jesus said you will know a born again Christian, not by his membership in a Catholic or Protestant church but by his ACTIONS (fruit): Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them." From Luke 6:43–45 (KJV): "For a good tree bringeth not forth corrupt fruit; neither doth a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. For every tree is known by his own fruit.

The same principle would apply to a friend. You will know your friends by their 'fruit', not be them calling themselves your friend. Why is this principle so difficult for you to understand?
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Re: Are Genocides Associated with Atheists?

#1003  Postby truelgbt » Nov 21, 2021 4:35 am

This is what wikipedia says about the CCP:: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Communist_Party
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Communist_Party

Here are some quotes:
"According to the party constitution, the CCP adheres to Marxism–Leninism, Mao Zedong Thought"

"Mao Zedong became the Chairman of the Chinese Communist Party in 1945."

"Marxism–Leninism was the first official ideology of the CCP.[113] According to the CCP, "Marxism–Leninism reveals the universal laws governing the development of history of human society."

Now let's look at some descriptions of these ATHEISTS and their ATHEIST regimes and ATHEIST followers in the Opening Post of this thread:

- Mao Zedong (died 1976): Atheist, with Darwin as his favorite author; he stated "Religion is poison." and "Chinese socialism is founded upon Darwin and the theory of evolution."; He made atheism the official ideology of China and flooded the media and schools with atheistic propaganda; lived an opulent lifestyle while the common people starved; his regime caused the deaths of 40 to 70 million people by starvation, torture, and executions.

- Vladimir Lenin (died 1924): Atheist and Darwinist; Bitterly renounced his belief in God following the death of his father and beloved brother; as a Marxist himself, he said: "Atheism is a natural and inseparable part of Marxism..."; he supported Darwin's theory and said: "Darwin put an end to the belief that the animal and vegetable species bear no relation to one another, except by chance, and that they were created by God, and hence immutable."; his dictatorship was responsible for the deaths of 2 to 3 million people by starvation, execution, and war

- Karl Marx (died 1883): Atheist and Darwinist; Best known for his remark "Man makes religion...It is the opium of the people"; of Darwin’s book "Origin of Species", he said: "This is the book which contains the basis in natural history for our views."; the most brutal regimes in history adopted his atheistic philosophies to murder millions. In Russia alone, more than 20 million Christians were killed in the 20th century as a result of his policies.

How can you say the CCP is not atheist? Are you in denial? The CCP cannot be divorced from its background and direct relationship with Marx, Lenin, and Mao. The quotes in the Opening Post are accurate quotes by these ATHEIST dictators, as far as I can tell, and who had ATHEIST followers carry out their dirty work.

The 163 MILLION BODY COUNT by ATHEIST regimes and their ATHEIST followers stands as-is. Stop denying it.

Now, I am not saying you are directly responsible for the 163 MILLION MURDERS, ok, so don't get triggered.
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Re: Are Genocides Associated with Atheists?

#1004  Postby Spearthrower » Nov 21, 2021 4:59 am

truelgbt wrote:The Chinese Communist Party under which the Uyghur Genocide has occurred and continues to occur is an ATHEIST organization:


Nup - it's a COMMUNIST organization - it's right there in the title.

What a waste of space you are, chap. Once again, you've trotted over here to rehearse your vapid bigotry.

And this is what Christianity is about, is it? It's about being an obnoxious little troll to strangers. Point me to the verse that justifies your behavior, or gtfo.
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Re: Are Genocides Associated with Atheists?

#1005  Postby Spearthrower » Nov 21, 2021 5:01 am

truelgbt wrote:
Now, I am not saying you are directly responsible for the 163 MILLION MURDERS, ok, so don't get triggered.



What a load of overwrought wibble. What motivates people like you to be such assholes to complete strangers?

Is your faith so impoverished that the only way you can convince yourself is by hating on those who don't share your beliefs?

Sad little man.
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Re: Are Genocides Associated with Atheists?

#1006  Postby Spearthrower » Nov 21, 2021 5:02 am

truelgbt wrote:
The same principle would apply to a friend. You will know your friends by their 'fruit', not be them calling themselves your friend. Why is this principle so difficult for you to understand?


/point and laugh


Because this 'principle' is batshit like all the other dreck you splurge here?
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Re: Are Genocides Associated with Atheists?

#1007  Postby truelgbt » Nov 21, 2021 6:24 am

Religion in China - Wikipediahttps://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Religion_in_China
The People's Republic of China, proclaimed in 1949 under the leadership of Mao Zedong, established a policy of state ATHEISM.

China has the world's greatest irreligious population, and the Chinese government and the ruling Chinese Communist Party (CCP) is officially ATHEIST.
Irreligion in China - Wikipediahttps://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Irreligion_in_China
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Re: Are Genocides Associated with Atheists?

#1008  Postby Spearthrower » Nov 21, 2021 6:47 am

You really seem to think that your ignorance decrees reality. Unfortunately for you, no one here is thick enough to buy into your vapid pap. Run along and find some other strangers to hate on, you sad little man.
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Re: Are Genocides Associated with Atheists?

#1009  Postby Spearthrower » Nov 21, 2021 6:48 am

And Jesus said: Seek you out strangers to express your bigoted hatred of - for that is the the way to God.
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Re: Are Genocides Associated with Atheists?

#1010  Postby Spearthrower » Nov 21, 2021 6:49 am

And love the irony of how you can't even manage to copy and paste a fucking URL. :lol:
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Re: Are Genocides Associated with Atheists?

#1011  Postby BlackBart » Nov 21, 2021 5:48 pm

Paedophile Priests are officially THEIST!!!111!!!

Derefore... :teef:
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#1012  Postby BlackBart » Nov 21, 2021 5:51 pm

I'll just parrot that again like a particularly slow-witted Mynah Bird...

Paedophile Priests are officially THEIST!!!111!!!

Derefore... :teef:
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Re: Are Genocides Associated with Atheists?

#1013  Postby aufbahrung » Nov 22, 2021 1:01 am

Not enough focus on transition states between atheism and theism, and vice versa, being explored for evidence that ideological or philosophical leanings of the masses can spur a genocide. They do appear associated with revolutionary fervour, although that might be me painting my own theory onto things. Any hard data on transition states and genocides? Be interesting to see how things go in the third world as it faces modernity with Musk's communication revolution if I'm right?
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Re: Are Genocides Associated with Atheists?

#1014  Postby truelgbt » Nov 26, 2021 8:23 pm

BlackBart wrote:I'll just parrot that again like a particularly slow-witted Mynah Bird...

Paedophile Priests are officially THEIST!!!111!!!

Derefore... :teef:


According to the Bible, EVERYONE IS A THEIST. No exceptions. Yes, the murderer, rapist, Catholic, Protestant, the one who claims to be an atheist, etc. EVERYONE.

Here are the reasons:
1) The universe cannot make itself; e.g. big bang. This is a huge violation of the laws of physics. Basic Physics 101. lol.
Psalm 19: The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament proclaims the work of His hands.

2) Life. Life cannot come from nonliving material. Basic Bio 101. Another lol.
Romans 1: For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen (BY ATHEISTS), being understood from what has been made, so that people (ATHEISTS) are without excuse.

3) Conscience. Our own conscience tells us God exists.
Romans 2: They (ATHEISTS) show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness...
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Re: Are Genocides Associated with Atheists?

#1015  Postby truelgbt » Nov 26, 2021 8:27 pm

Spearthrower wrote:And love the irony of how you can't even manage to copy and paste a f***ing URL. :lol:


So sorry. Thank you for pointing out my mistake. Here it is again corrected:


Irreligion in China - Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Irreligion_in_China
China has the world's greatest irreligious population, and the Chinese government and the ruling Chinese Communist Party (CCP) is officially ATHEIST.

State atheism - Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › State_atheism
China — China has adopted a policy of official state ATHEISM.

Religion in China - Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Religion_in_China
The People's Republic of China, proclaimed in 1949 under the leadership of Mao Zedong, established a policy of state ATHEISM.

This proves ATHEIST countries and governments end up committing genocide; in modern times, the Uyghur people are suffering immensely due to ATHEIST government policies while ATHEIST communities elsewhere seem to be in denial that China is in-fact ATHEIST.

This ATHEIST government-instigated holocaust of modern times is an opportunity for ATHEIST communities to come together to:
a) acknowledge the problem of ATHEIST governments.
b) to stop the problem.
c) to prevent these genocides caused by ATHEIST governments from continuing to repeat themselves in the future.

Why should anyone on this forum have a problem with this? This is a very positive step, no?

I am not saying atheists here on this forum or elsewhere are guilty of genocide but many are guilty of DENIAL - e.g. China is not atheist; the CCP is not atheist; genocide doesn't happen in modern times; there is no trend of atheist governments committing genocide, there's no such thing as an atheist government, there is no such thing as atheists committing genocide, there is no connection whatsoever between atheism and genocide, etc. which are all DENIALS.

Denials, denials, denials....all of which guarantees ATHEIST governments run by ATHEISTS, and their genocides, will continue.

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Re: Are Genocides Associated with Atheists?

#1016  Postby The_Metatron » Nov 26, 2021 10:49 pm

truelgbt wrote:
BlackBart wrote:I'll just parrot that again like a particularly slow-witted Mynah Bird...

Paedophile Priests are officially THEIST!!!111!!!

Derefore... :teef:


According to the Bible, EVERYONE IS A THEIST. No exceptions. Yes, the murderer, rapist, Catholic, Protestant, the one who claims to be an atheist, etc. EVERYONE.

Here are the reasons:
1) The universe cannot make itself; e.g. big bang. This is a huge violation of the laws of physics. Basic Physics 101. lol.
Psalm 19: The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament proclaims the work of His hands.

2) Life. Life cannot come from nonliving material. Basic Bio 101. Another lol.
Romans 1: For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen (BY ATHEISTS), being understood from what has been made, so that people (ATHEISTS) are without excuse.

3) Conscience. Our own conscience tells us God exists.
Romans 2: They (ATHEISTS) show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness...

"According to the bible......"

That is sure to settle things. Especially here.
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Re: Are Genocides Associated with Atheists?

#1017  Postby Spearthrower » Nov 27, 2021 12:15 am

truelgbt wrote:
Spearthrower wrote:And love the irony of how you can't even manage to copy and paste a fucking URL. :lol:


So sorry. Thank you for pointing out my mistake. Here it is again corrected:


And then you proceed to show that the first series of failed URL copy and pastes wasn't just a momentary mistake.

I mean, how hard is it to copy and paste?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreligion_in_China
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Re: Are Genocides Associated with Atheists?

#1018  Postby Spearthrower » Nov 27, 2021 12:16 am

truelgbt wrote:
This proves ATHEIST countries and governments end up committing genocide;


Vacuous, motivated, and deranged.
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Re: Are Genocides Associated with Atheists?

#1019  Postby hackenslash » Nov 27, 2021 1:11 am

truelgbt wrote:According to the Bible, EVERYONE IS A THEIST. No exceptions. Yes, the murderer, rapist, Catholic, Protestant, the one who claims to be an atheist, etc. EVERYONE.


According to the bible, bats are birds.

Here are the reasons:
1) The universe cannot make itself; e.g. big bang. This is a huge violation of the laws of physics. Basic Physics 101. lol.
Psalm 19: The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament proclaims the work of His hands.


That's not physics 101, that's Aristotle 101. Aristotle also thought that women have fewer teeth than men, and has not, in my considerable experience with physics, ever been vaunted as a physicist. There's nothing in physics 101 that tells us that the universe had or required a beginning, let alone that the big bang was it. Meanwhile, physics 820 tells us that prime mover arguments violate the laws of physics.

2) Life. Life cannot come from nonliving material. Basic Bio 101. Another lol.
Romans 1: For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen (BY ATHEISTS), being understood from what has been made, so that people (ATHEISTS) are without excuse.


Except that isn't basic biology, it's a mis-statement of Pasteur. In fact, chemistry 101 tells us that life is an emergent behaviour of non-living material.

3) Conscience. Our own conscience tells us God exists.
Romans 2: They (ATHEISTS) show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness...


Funnily enough, not only my conscience tells me this is bollocks - not least because your little fantasy is deeply immoral - but also my understanding of your sordid myth tells me that YOUR god cannot exist. The entity described in your nasty book of badly-written fanfic is mutually exclusive with the existence of the book itself.
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Re: Are Genocides Associated with Atheists?

#1020  Postby Macdoc » Nov 27, 2021 1:27 am

You being a masochist again ?? :coffee:
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