Are Genocides Associated with Atheists?

Why were many of history's most brutal regimes authored by atheists?

Atheism, secularism & freethought etc.

Moderators: kiore, The_Metatron, Blip

Re: Are Genocides Associated with Atheists?

#901  Postby Agrippina » Jun 06, 2021 3:18 pm

hackenslash wrote:
BlackBart wrote:Leopold II anyone? Responsible for the annihilation of ten million Congolese (Not to mention the practice of chopping their hands off if they didn't meet their rubber quotas). Religion... (Alexa, drum roll please) Christian!!


I had totally forgotten.

Here you go, truelgbt, a Christian dictator from the 20th century. Leopold was the man for whom the phrase 'crimes against humanity' was coined.

Your thesis is falsified in spades.

Meanwhile, about those paederasts...


I'd forgotten about Leopold for the moment. Yes. Then there's also this charming fellow: Idi Amin
According to Fred Guweddeko, a researcher at Makerere University, Amin was the son of Andreas Nyabire (1889–1976). Nyabire, a member of the Kakwa ethnic group, converted from Roman Catholicism to Islam in 1910 and changed his name to Amin Dada.
A mind without instruction can no more bear fruit than can a field, however fertile, without cultivation. - Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 BCE - 43 BCE)
User avatar
Agrippina
 
Posts: 36924
Female

Country: South Africa
South Africa (za)
Print view this post

Re: Are Genocides Associated with Atheists?

#902  Postby proudfootz » Jun 06, 2021 3:49 pm

It's abundantly clear that subscribing to theistic superstition does not inoculate a person against the commission of heinous crimes, nor does the lack of faith in supernatural beings.
"Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged to stick to possibilities; Truth isn't." - Mark Twain
User avatar
proudfootz
 
Posts: 11007

Country: USA
United States (us)
Print view this post

Re: Are Genocides Associated with Atheists?

#903  Postby Spearthrower » Jun 07, 2021 12:20 am

Yup, it's almost like murderous tyrants aren't known for worrying about justifying their murderous tyranny.
I'm not an atheist; I just don't believe in gods :- that which I don't belong to isn't a group!
Religion: Mass Stockholm Syndrome

Learn Stuff. Stuff good. https://www.coursera.org/
User avatar
Spearthrower
 
Posts: 28949
Age: 45
Male

Country: Thailand
Print view this post

Re: Are Genocides Associated with Atheists?

#904  Postby Rachel Bronwyn » Jun 07, 2021 2:06 am

Keep It Real wrote:Here are some more theists doing what theists do best:

Image


I think that's just a Mel Gibson movie.
what a terrible image
User avatar
Rachel Bronwyn
 
Name: speaking moistly
Posts: 13581
Age: 33
Female

Canada (ca)
Print view this post

Re: Are Genocides Associated with Atheists?

#905  Postby Spearthrower » Jun 07, 2021 2:25 am

:lol:
I'm not an atheist; I just don't believe in gods :- that which I don't belong to isn't a group!
Religion: Mass Stockholm Syndrome

Learn Stuff. Stuff good. https://www.coursera.org/
User avatar
Spearthrower
 
Posts: 28949
Age: 45
Male

Country: Thailand
Print view this post

Re: Are Genocides Associated with Atheists?

#906  Postby Rachel Bronwyn » Jun 07, 2021 2:35 am

Isn't his dad a holocaust denier?

Full circle.
what a terrible image
User avatar
Rachel Bronwyn
 
Name: speaking moistly
Posts: 13581
Age: 33
Female

Canada (ca)
Print view this post

Re: Are Genocides Associated with Atheists?

#907  Postby truelgbt » Jun 15, 2021 7:36 pm

You are all wrong according to Jesus:

Jesus said to those who claimed to be Christians, “You are truly my disciples (CHRISTIANS) if you remain faithful to my teachings."

For example the teaching, LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.

Murder is not loving your neighbor as yourself, hence THE ACT OF MURDER AUTOMATICALLY DISQUALIFIES A PERSON FROM BEING A CHRISTIAN ACCORDING TO JESUS because your ACT defies your claim about yourself.
truelgbt
 
Name: trev
Posts: 201

Country: aussie
Australia (au)
Print view this post

Re: Are Genocides Associated with Atheists?

#908  Postby BlackBart » Jun 15, 2021 7:48 pm

Goal post moving at it's best - they were still theists, genius.
You don't crucify people! Not on Good Friday! - Harold Shand
User avatar
BlackBart
 
Name: rotten bart
Posts: 12431
Age: 59
Male

United Kingdom (uk)
Print view this post

Re: Are Genocides Associated with Atheists?

#909  Postby SafeAsMilk » Jun 15, 2021 8:22 pm

truelgbt wrote:You are all wrong according to Jesus:

Jesus said to those who claimed to be Christians, “You are truly my disciples (CHRISTIANS) if you remain faithful to my teachings."

For example the teaching, LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.

Murder is not loving your neighbor as yourself, hence THE ACT OF MURDER AUTOMATICALLY DISQUALIFIES A PERSON FROM BEING A CHRISTIAN ACCORDING TO JESUS because your ACT defies your claim about yourself.

Not necessarily. For example, Hitler killed himself. Therefore he did indeed love his neighbor as himself.
"They call it the American dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it." -- George Carlin
User avatar
SafeAsMilk
 
Name: Makes Fails
Posts: 14774
Age: 41
Male

United States (us)
Print view this post

Re: Are Genocides Associated with Atheists?

#910  Postby BlackBart » Jun 15, 2021 9:16 pm

Of course, if you're really, really, pinky swear sorry, all is forgiven.
You don't crucify people! Not on Good Friday! - Harold Shand
User avatar
BlackBart
 
Name: rotten bart
Posts: 12431
Age: 59
Male

United Kingdom (uk)
Print view this post

Re: Are Genocides Associated with Atheists?

#911  Postby Spearthrower » Jun 16, 2021 12:25 am

truelgbt wrote:You are all wrong according to Jesus:


Oh no!

Some guy from antiquity ignorant of the intervening 2000 years of the knowledge acquisition said something else!

Well, that's us told! :lol:


truelgbt wrote:Jesus said to those who claimed to be Christians, “You are truly my disciples (CHRISTIANS) if you remain faithful to my teachings."

For example the teaching, LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.


Ahh I see, so you're not a true Christian then?

That does make sense.


truelgbt wrote:Murder is not loving your neighbor as yourself, hence THE ACT OF MURDER AUTOMATICALLY DISQUALIFIES A PERSON FROM BEING A CHRISTIAN ACCORDING TO JESUS because your ACT defies your claim about yourself.


Being a bigoted little runt on the internet is not loving your neighbour as yourself, ergo - yep, projection.
I'm not an atheist; I just don't believe in gods :- that which I don't belong to isn't a group!
Religion: Mass Stockholm Syndrome

Learn Stuff. Stuff good. https://www.coursera.org/
User avatar
Spearthrower
 
Posts: 28949
Age: 45
Male

Country: Thailand
Print view this post

Re: Are Genocides Associated with Atheists?

#912  Postby aban57 » Jun 20, 2021 7:07 pm

I made an episode on that this week :
aban57
 
Name: Cindy
Posts: 7483
Age: 42
Female

Country: France
Belgium (be)
Print view this post

Re: Are Genocides Associated with Atheists?

#913  Postby hackenslash » Jun 20, 2021 7:29 pm

Good work. I subbed.
User avatar
hackenslash
 
Name: The Other Sweary One
Posts: 21919
Age: 52
Male

Country: Republic of Mancunia
Print view this post

Re: Are Genocides Associated with Atheists?

#914  Postby aban57 » Jun 20, 2021 8:19 pm

Thanks ! This means a lot !
aban57
 
Name: Cindy
Posts: 7483
Age: 42
Female

Country: France
Belgium (be)
Print view this post

Re: Are Genocides Associated with Atheists?

#915  Postby aban57 » Jun 20, 2021 8:27 pm

I'm still having a lot of trouble speaking. Recently the depression (and maybe also the treatment for it) makes me unable to concentrate most of the time. So I can't do as usually and think before speaking, so I'm having a hard time having a smooth flow.
It pisses me off so much.
aban57
 
Name: Cindy
Posts: 7483
Age: 42
Female

Country: France
Belgium (be)
Print view this post

Re: Are Genocides Associated with Atheists?

#916  Postby hackenslash » Jun 20, 2021 9:20 pm

You come across fine.
User avatar
hackenslash
 
Name: The Other Sweary One
Posts: 21919
Age: 52
Male

Country: Republic of Mancunia
Print view this post

Re: Are Genocides Associated with Atheists?

#917  Postby Basset Hound » Jun 30, 2021 2:28 am

And let us not forget the man sometimes called 'The African Hitler', Yakubu Gowon, who was a pious Christian and caused the deaths of more than a million Igbos.
Basset Hound
 
Name: Jack Hunter
Posts: 23

Country: United States
Antarctica (aq)
Print view this post

Re: Are Genocides Associated with Atheists?

#918  Postby BlackBart » Jun 30, 2021 3:51 am

Not to mention the members of the Catholic church in Rwanda who were complicit in the genocide there. A particularly unsavoury example being a priest named Father Athanase Seromba who kindly allowed two thousand Tutsis to take refuge in a church... and then ordered it Bulldozed. Anyone who was fortunate enough to escape the crushed building met their fate from machete wielding Hutu militia.
You don't crucify people! Not on Good Friday! - Harold Shand
User avatar
BlackBart
 
Name: rotten bart
Posts: 12431
Age: 59
Male

United Kingdom (uk)
Print view this post

Re: Are Genocides Associated with Atheists?

#919  Postby truelgbt » Jul 17, 2021 9:35 am

So why did those atheist dictators who gathered other like-minded atheists to support those atheist regimes, murder those hundreds of millions of people in the 20th century?

Where was their atheist conscience in all this?

Where did their keen atheist ability to determine right from wrong disappear to?
truelgbt
 
Name: trev
Posts: 201

Country: aussie
Australia (au)
Print view this post

Re: Are Genocides Associated with Atheists?

#920  Postby Spearthrower » Jul 17, 2021 10:38 am

truelgbt wrote:So why did those atheist dictators who gathered other like-minded atheists to support those atheist regimes, murder those hundreds of millions of people in the 20th century?


I haven't seen the fictional work you're referring to, so I couldn't say. Please put the answers in SPOILER tags though, just in case I ever get round to watching this movie.


truelgbt wrote:Where was their atheist conscience in all this?


An atheist conscience? I had the strangest notion that 'conscience' was something all humans possessed; I certainly wasn't aware that consciences came in different flavours depending on your degree of belief in divine entities. So I guess I will have to wait for you to justify this idea before I can comment as it seems like the delusional raving of a vicious little internet bigot to me.


truelgbt wrote:Where did their keen atheist ability to determine right from wrong disappear to?


Unfortunately, it's not possible to provide real world evidence for the fantastical delusions your bigoted brain concocts.

If you want to talk about the real world, do feel free. If you want to be a mindless little bigot, kindly pop that back up your rectum, and sling your hook - there's a good gibbering loon.
I'm not an atheist; I just don't believe in gods :- that which I don't belong to isn't a group!
Religion: Mass Stockholm Syndrome

Learn Stuff. Stuff good. https://www.coursera.org/
User avatar
Spearthrower
 
Posts: 28949
Age: 45
Male

Country: Thailand
Print view this post

PreviousNext

Return to Nontheism

Who is online

Users viewing this topic: No registered users and 3 guests