Are Genocides Associated with Atheists?

Why were many of history's most brutal regimes authored by atheists?

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Re: Are Genocides Associated with Atheists?

#961  Postby hackenslash » Jul 27, 2021 6:06 pm

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Re: Are Genocides Associated with Atheists?

#962  Postby BlackBart » Jul 27, 2021 8:13 pm

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Re: Are Genocides Associated with Atheists?

#963  Postby felltoearth » Jul 28, 2021 3:46 am

Pinochet was a practicing Catholic.
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Re: Are Genocides Associated with Atheists?

#964  Postby Agrippina » Jul 28, 2021 6:34 am

Has anyone ever heard of an atheist, a person who actually actively admits that they don't believe in any kind of woo, committing atrocities? I can't think of even a serial killer who didn't find Jesus or some sort of belief in some nonsense, before they were killed by the state. I went looking around for answers to whether atheists are more, or less, likely to commit crime, not only murder, but whether there is a correlation between crime generally, and belief, and the consensus seems to be that secular countries have lower crime rates, and even though strongly religious countries, and societies believe that atheists are more likely to have criminal tendencies, the opposite is true. My conclusion is that if you want to lower crime rates, get rid of religion.
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Re: Are Genocides Associated with Atheists?

#965  Postby BlackBart » Jul 28, 2021 11:25 am

Ever see a belt buckle with the inscription 'Gott nicht mitt uns'? Nope, me neither. :coffee:
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Re: Are Genocides Associated with Atheists?

#966  Postby Hermit » Jul 29, 2021 12:43 am

truelgbt wrote:
Hermit wrote:Not this canard again. Yes, atheist dictators have committed mass murders in the 20th century. So have theist dictators. Dictators are psychopaths regardless of whether they subscribe to a religion, or not.


The list of atheist dictators in the OP pretty much covers most of the dictators of the 20th century.

Who are the born-again Christian dictators you are referring to?

I have not referred to born-again Christian dictators. Neither have you until a week after I wrote the post you are quoting here. Learn to read.

In keeping with this thread's title, "Are Genocides Associated with Atheists?", and the discussion therein up to that point, I have mentioned theist dictators. Hitler was one of them, and almost all his collaborators as well as his supporters were theists.
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Re: Are Genocides Associated with Atheists?

#967  Postby Seabass » Jul 29, 2021 1:27 am

BlackBart wrote:ISTR A study that said that psychopaths - admittedly that's a broad definition - may feel remorse, guilt and empathy, they're just 'better' at compartmentalising and use coping strategies.


So Republicans are like psychopaths, but without the remorse, guilt, and empathy... :ask:
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Re: Are Genocides Associated with Atheists?

#968  Postby BlackBart » Jul 29, 2021 1:27 pm

Seabass wrote:
BlackBart wrote:ISTR A study that said that psychopaths - admittedly that's a broad definition - may feel remorse, guilt and empathy, they're just 'better' at compartmentalising and use coping strategies.


So Republicans are like psychopaths, but without the remorse, guilt, and empathy... :ask:


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Re: Are Genocides Associated with Atheists?

#969  Postby Spearthrower » Jul 30, 2021 3:43 am

I think we can all say that yes, yes, yes indeed, genocides are associated with atheists.

Associated with atheists by theists desperate to demonize non-conformity.
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Re: Are Genocides Associated with Atheists?

#970  Postby truelgbt » Oct 09, 2021 3:25 pm

Present-Day Genocide Committed by Atheists: Uyghurs (minority Muslim ethnic population)

Uyghur Genocide by Atheist Chinese Communist Party (officially ATHEIST).
1) Since its beginning in 2014, the Uyghur genocide has murdered at least 9 million people!
2) In one county alone, the Uyghur population was 92,000 in 2016 and today it is less than 20,000 people. That's a WHOLE LOT OF KILLING.
3) Mass detention (over 1.8 million people) into 'indoctrination camps' for brainwashing (e.g. 'atheism leads to wonderful things in society', etc.).
4) Mass forced sterilization of women (80% of women).
5) Mass rape and sexual torture of women, including electric shock probes into the vagina and rectum.
6) Mass forced labor.
7) Mass forced abortions.
8) Mass organ-harvesting: 25,000 Uyghurs killed for organ harvesting annually.


Trump is the ONLY POTUS to publicly and officially declare the Uyghur genocide. Biden is silent; Obama is silent.
Atheist organizations are also VERY VERY SILENT on this issue. Why?

The ATHEIST Chinese Communist Party (officially ATHEIST) has a membership of over 95 MILLION atheists.
Are all 95 million atheists supporting the genocide? Hopefully not but they haven't stopped it either, nor have they quit the atheist CCP membership in protest. They still support the Party. Why? Cowardice maybe?

So the question is, why do large ATHEIST groups commit and/or ALLOW genocide BY THEIR OWN GROUP? Even in the 21st Century? Trump did something about it but not you?

Whys hasn't this present-day genocide been discussed to any significant extent on this forum? Its been going on for 7 years!
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Re: Are Genocides Associated with Atheists?

#971  Postby Spearthrower » Oct 09, 2021 7:17 pm

truelgbt wrote:Vacuous bigoted waffle


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#972  Postby Spearthrower » Oct 09, 2021 7:20 pm

Spearthrower wrote:I think we can all say that yes, yes, yes indeed, genocides are associated with atheists.

Associated with atheists by theists desperate to demonize non-conformity.
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Re: Are Genocides Associated with Atheists?

#973  Postby BlackBart » Oct 10, 2021 12:03 pm

And what about the people who don't believe in the Loch Ness Monster, eh? They're strangely quiet about all this. :nono:
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Re: Are Genocides Associated with Atheists?

#974  Postby Spearthrower » Oct 10, 2021 3:02 pm

BlackBart wrote:And what about the people who don't believe in the Loch Ness Monster, eh? They're strangely quiet about all this. :nono:


I personally haven't heard so much as a peep from them about violent Christian extremism in the U.S., so Loch Ness Monster believers obviously condone such barbarism. They should be ashamed!
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Re: Are Genocides Associated with Atheists?

#975  Postby truelgbt » Oct 11, 2021 3:13 am

Spearthrower wrote:I personally haven't heard so much as a peep from them about violent Christian extremism in the U.S...


What? Violent born-again Christians committing genocide?

Just like ATHEIST dictators and groups have been VERY CONSISTENT to do - including up to the present day (remember the Uyghurs genocide which is still going on as we speak - with NO ATHEIST GROUPS TAKING ANY STEPS TO STOP IT)?

Trump spoke out about it. Have any atheists spoken out about it? NOPE (surprise, surprise). Not so much as a peep!

Who is that born-again genocidal Christian individual or group you are referring to? Got a name so I can look it up?
Please, name them here so we can all verify. Thanks.
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Re: Are Genocides Associated with Atheists?

#976  Postby BlackBart » Oct 11, 2021 3:56 am

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Re: Are Genocides Associated with Atheists?

#977  Postby Spearthrower » Oct 11, 2021 8:07 am

truelgbt wrote:
Spearthrower wrote:I personally haven't heard so much as a peep from them about violent Christian extremism in the U.S...


What? Violent born-again Christians committing genocide?

Just like ATHEIST dictators and groups have been VERY CONSISTENT to do - including up to the present day (remember the Uyghurs genocide which is still going on as we speak - with NO ATHEIST GROUPS TAKING ANY STEPS TO STOP IT)?

Trump spoke out about it. Have any atheists spoken out about it? NOPE (surprise, surprise). Not so much as a peep!

Who is that born-again genocidal Christian individual or group you are referring to? Got a name so I can look it up?
Please, name them here so we can all verify. Thanks.



Not big on reality, are ya?

Then again, its pretty obvious considering you're completely unable even to distinguish your gluteus maximus from your cubitus - it may as well ALL be Latin to you.
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Re: Are Genocides Associated with Atheists?

#978  Postby Spearthrower » Oct 11, 2021 8:13 am

BlackBart wrote:https://www.atheistalliance.org/presidents-corner/aai-condemns-uighur-cultural-genocide/

Goalpost shift in 3... 2... 1...


*splutter*

Look, things I say will happen don't happen, and things I declare haven't happened actually have, but you stupid people should listen carefully to my vacuous yammering and asinine bigotry because Jeebus!
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Re: Are Genocides Associated with Atheists?

#979  Postby Hermit » Oct 11, 2021 8:32 am

BlackBart wrote:https://www.atheistalliance.org/presidents-corner/aai-condemns-uighur-cultural-genocide/

Goalpost shift in 3... 2... 1...

Already done. In his 14th post on the topic truelgbt asked "Who are the born-again Christian dictators you are referring to?" The stipulation that Christian dictators only count as being associated with genocides if they are born-again Christians is a new one. It is necessary because there simply are too many ordinary Christians who have been associated with genocides and mass murders in recent history.
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Re: Are Genocides Associated with Atheists?

#980  Postby truelgbt » Oct 11, 2021 9:35 am

I stand corrected. AAI has indeed spoken out against the Uyghur genocide carried out by atheists in China.
Hopefully all individual atheist organizations around the world (50+) will do the same because the more the better.
Same goes for all Christian organizations to do the same as well. This genocide has been going on since 2014 and only in this year, 2021, has anyone of significance spoken out against it. Why are so few speaking out? And why has it taken so long?

It is unfortunate though that the 20th and 21st centuries have been marred by ATHEIST governments who have carried out the murder of hundreds of millions.

Genocide also shows the depravity of mankind. We are sinful, evil beings in need of change which can only come from God.

Genesis 6:5: Then the Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great on the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

Jeremiah 17:9: “The heart is more deceitful than all else, And is desperately sick; Who can understand it?

Jeremiah 7:24: Yet they did not obey or incline their ear, but walked in their own counsels and in the stubbornness of their evil heart, and went backward and not forward.

One of the recent prophecies given by a Christian prophet is that God will step in very soon to bring the Chinese government to its knees. God will do what man couldn't or wouldn't do.
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