Atheism and K9
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Atheism and K9
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by ispoketoanangel » Jan 26, 2012 4:28 pm
If atheism is true, then on what ground is K9 morally objectionable, if the dog happens to enjoy it?
Discuss.
Discuss.
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Re: Atheism and K9
#2 by mattwilson » Jan 26, 2012 4:31 pm
ispoketoanangel wrote:If atheism is true, then on what ground is K9 morally objectionable, if the dog happens to enjoy it?
Discuss.
Are you looking for a reason to deconvert? Will you become an atheist if we say it's okay for you to pork your mothers Labrador?
You are just wrong dude
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Re: Atheism and K9
#5 by Scot Dutchy » Jan 26, 2012 4:33 pm
Oh just leave him. He is not worth it.
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Re: Atheism and K9
#6 by Animavore » Jan 26, 2012 4:33 pm
ispoketoanangel wrote:If atheism is true, then on what ground is K9 morally objectionable, if the dog happens to enjoy it?
Discuss.
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Re: Atheism and K9
#7 by Scar » Jan 26, 2012 4:34 pm
Him.
Also: If Christianity is true, on what basis do you not kill disobedient children?
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Re: Atheism and K9
#8 by mattwilson » Jan 26, 2012 4:44 pm
If Christianity is true why don't you show love to your enemies Ispoketoanangel AKA atheistsarevermin?
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Re: Atheism and K9
#9 by Imagination Theory » Jan 26, 2012 4:49 pm
Dogs can't consent or communicate or understand fully enough to be able to agree to sex with a human. They cannot communicate to you that they want you to stop now, even if they acted like they wanted it before, or that it is hurting them, etc. So it is rape. Sometimes when animals, including mammals get raped their body may react as if they are enjoying it. They are NOT. You can't just tell from that.
Do you need me to tell you why rape is unethical?
Do you need me to tell you why rape is unethical?
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Re: Atheism and K9
#10 by mattwilson » Jan 26, 2012 4:51 pm
Imagination Theory wrote:Dogs can't consent or communicate or understand fully enough to be able to agree to sex with a human. They cannot communicate to you that they want you to stop now, even if they acted like they wanted it before, or that it is hurting them, etc. So it is rape. Sometimes when animals, including mammals get raped their body may react as if they are enjoying it. They are NOT. You can't just tell from that.
Do you need me to tell you why rape is unethical?
Explain it, but you'll also need to explain why handing over your daughter to be raped instead of your male house guest is abhorrent.
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Re: Atheism and K9
#11 by Wiðercora » Jan 26, 2012 4:55 pm
ispoketoanangel wrote:If atheism is true, then on what ground is K9 morally objectionable, if the dog happens to enjoy it?
Discuss.
K9? You mean the robot dog from Doctor Who? What?
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Re: Atheism and K9
#12 by trubble76 » Jan 26, 2012 4:58 pm
Damn robosexuals are destroying families.
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Re: Atheism and K9
#13 by Mycernius » Jan 26, 2012 5:01 pm
I was thinking the same thing.
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Re: Atheism and K9
#14 by mattwilson » Jan 26, 2012 5:02 pm
Whenever I hear some fucktard say that gays are ruining families I picture a nice homely scene with a husband and wife cuddled up on the sofa and two kids playing ludo by the fire listening to classic.fm, then suddenly a gang of pink tank top wearing jessies kick the door down (wearing fabulous boots) bring in a new woman and force the the wife to kiss her and tell the kids to stop playing ludo and play with blow up dolls wearing fetish clothes wearing funnel gags... Then defecate on the family pet before mincing off to ruin another family.
That's how you really ruin a family.
That's how you really ruin a family.
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Re: Atheism and K9
#15 by Imagination Theory » Jan 26, 2012 5:04 pm
mattwilson wrote:Imagination Theory wrote:Dogs can't consent or communicate or understand fully enough to be able to agree to sex with a human. They cannot communicate to you that they want you to stop now, even if they acted like they wanted it before, or that it is hurting them, etc. So it is rape. Sometimes when animals, including mammals get raped their body may react as if they are enjoying it. They are NOT. You can't just tell from that.
Do you need me to tell you why rape is unethical?
Explain it, but you'll also need to explain why handing over your daughter to be raped instead of your male house guest is abhorrent.
Well, thankfully most Christians pick and choose what to Believe in the Bible. Right ispoketoanangel? To answer any question of yours similar to this I just ask you to remember. Ethics and religion are not the same. If you know why rape is unethical, you obviously didn't learn that from your religion or bible.
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Re: Atheism and K9
#16 by Scar » Jan 26, 2012 5:05 pm
mattwilson wrote:Whenever I hear some fucktard say that gays are ruining families I picture a nice homely scene with a husband and wife cuddled up on the sofa and two kids playing ludo by the fire listening to classic.fm, then suddenly a gang of pink tank top wearing jessies kick the door down (wearing fabulous boots) bring in a new woman and force the the wife to kiss her and tell the kids to stop playing ludo and play with blow up dolls wearing fetish clothes wearing funnel gags... Then defecate on the family pet before mincing off to ruin another family.
That's how you really ruin a family.
That's actually how I spend the day with my boyfriend yesterday
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Re: Atheism and K9
#17 by Shrunk » Jan 26, 2012 5:16 pm
ISTA inadvertently asks an interesting question, though not for the reasons he seems to think. It shows how difficult it can be to distinguish disgust from moral objection.
Of course, presuming theism to be true only leads to even more intractible questions regarding morality.
Of course, presuming theism to be true only leads to even more intractible questions regarding morality.
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Re: Atheism and K9
#18 by Blackadder » Jan 26, 2012 5:23 pm
Is that biblical Christian logic?
Premise: There is no God.
Therefore: animal rape.
If it is, it doesn't present a very edifying picture of the Christian mind.
Premise: There is no God.
Therefore: animal rape.
If it is, it doesn't present a very edifying picture of the Christian mind.
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Re: Atheism and K9
#19 by Shrunk » Jan 26, 2012 5:33 pm
Blackadder wrote:Is that biblical Christian logic?
Premise: There is no God.
Therefore: animal rape.
If it is, it doesn't present a very edifying picture of the Christian mind.
For that matter:
If there is a god, bestiality bad, slavery OK.
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Re: Atheism and K9
#20 by Animavore » Jan 26, 2012 5:48 pm
"Even today a good many distinguished minds seem unable to accept or to even understand that from a source of noise natural selection could quite unaided have drawn all the music of the biosperes."
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