Scot Dutchy wrote:

THWOTH wrote:

Fallible wrote:Also GakuseiDon and nunnington, among others. I think we do ourselves a disservice when we make comments about 'all' theists like that.

Agreed.

What disservice?

Scot Dutchy wrote:I have very little time for any of them.
All they do is come here to cause trouble.

While I was against an ignore button some these theist postings do streatch ones patience.

Scot -
The reply was in reference to your categorical generalization. One needs to make a distinction between the sincere theists who make genuine and insightful contributions to the forum, and such disingenuous "contributors" as certain people whose modus operandi include dodging questions, ignoring serious rebuttals, harping on moot points, giving oblique non-answers, and, in general, having a "snarky" go in a thread in order to provoke rather than honestly engage in discussion. In other words, a trolling theist. Can't think of any examples off the top of my head , but I'm sure someone will come along in this thread and amply demonstrate this type.

Paula wrote:

THWOTH wrote:

Paula wrote:

The_Metatron wrote:He came here for an argument. Abuse is down the hall.

Well I'm not arguing with him

Yes you are.

No I'm bloody well not!

I'm arguing with you now

No you're not. You're just contradicting me and that's not an argument.

Lion IRC wrote:
An even greater disservice is done by people who resort to the juvenile, emotional..."liar liar pants on fire, neh, neh ,neh"

True. And is also a juvenile, emotional response that is a disservice.

instead of the more intellectually challenging rational method...

A demonstration is in order, Lion. Please proceed. My irony meter is in the red.

THWOTH wrote:

Lion IRC wrote:

ChasM wrote:

Lion IRC wrote:Last I heard, AC Grayling is still an atheist.

And, last I heard, AC Grayling is still not the pope of atheists. After all, how could you have a supreme pontiff of a non-system of non-belief? Keep pinging, Lion. It's positively entertaining.

I think the Fourth Horseman spot is currently vacant. Maybe he can fill that.

Don't dismiss it too quickly Chas, I think the money is quite good and the hours are OK.

But where does one send one's résumé? Perhaps Lion could enlighten me as to where the aVatican of this non-religion is found so I can check this out. What's the pension plan like?

ChasM wrote:... What's the pension plan like?

Crap, but on the plus side, you don't have to fuck choirboys

Lion IRC wrote:

Fallible wrote::roll: Glad to have offered you an easy out.

Thanks. If only we had done that earlier.

I suspected you weren't actually interested in a discussion, but this is just pathetic.

Gunna answer my questions, or just insist, quite ironically, that you're right?

chairman bill wrote:

ChasM wrote:... What's the pension plan like?

Crap, but on the plus side, you don't have to fuck choirboys

Well that's comforting. And one probably doesn't have to memorize a bunch of dreary incantations in a dead language. Or wear a funny hat.

ChasM wrote:

Scot Dutchy wrote:

THWOTH wrote:

Fallible wrote:Also GakuseiDon and nunnington, among others. I think we do ourselves a disservice when we make comments about 'all' theists like that.

Agreed.

What disservice?

Scot Dutchy wrote:I have very little time for any of them.
All they do is come here to cause trouble.

While I was against an ignore button some these theist postings do streatch ones patience.

Scot -
The reply was in reference to your categorical generalization. One needs to make a distinction between the sincere theists who make genuine and insightful contributions to the forum, and such disingenuous "contributors" as certain people whose modus operandi include dodging questions, ignoring serious rebuttals, harping on moot points, giving oblique non-answers, and, in general, having a "snarky" go in a thread in order to provoke rather than honestly engage in discussion. In other words, a trolling theist. Can't think of any examples off the top of my head , but I'm sure someone will come along in this thread and amply demonstrate this type.

Sorry I dont see like that. It does not matter if he is sincere or not SORRY. THey are theists believing in and spouting lie upon lie.
I have no time for them. THey are all cherry pickers that have their version of the bible but are not willing to accept what a load of crap it is.

ChasM wrote:... Or wear a funny hat.

Oh, I think that one of the plus points. Funny hats are great, and should be encouraged.

THWOTH wrote:

Paula wrote:

THWOTH wrote:

Paula wrote:
Well I'm not arguing with him

Yes you are.

No I'm bloody well not!

I'm arguing with you now

No you're not. You're just contradicting me and that's not an argument.

Alright, alright, no one likes a smart arse

Is this the five minute argument or the full half hour?

Lion IRC wrote:
Yeah, see how that worked out for the Romans.
Somebody should have warned them that one day the vatican would be in Rome.

They already knew the Vatican was in Rome, it's a geographic term that predates Christianity.

THWOTH wrote:Is this the five minute argument or the full half hour?

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Haven't seen that skit since, well, back in the day. Still a stitch. And it sort of reminds me of...

Lion IRC wrote:Last I heard, AC Grayling is still an atheist.

He's also a mammal. I guess that makes all mammals atheists. Or is it that being a mammal is a religion?

^ Mammalism is a well documented system of hirsute belief.

Ah, but not all mammals are hirsute. Just look at those heretic dolphins! They're closet fish, I tell you!!

^ Aquatic apostates! They shall burn. If we can just get them out of the water.

Lion IRC wrote:Your whining about his use of the word humanism on the cover of a book about atheist morality is hollow.

No, my complaint is the way that you dishonestly take something written by an atheist, about humanism and dishonestly say that it is about atheism.

And, there is no such thing as "atheist morality". That is the point of things like Humanism, they can give a basis for morality which cannot be garnered from simply having the position of not having belief in the existence of a god.

chairman bill wrote:

Lion IRC wrote:... a book about atheist morality is hollow ...

There is no such thing as atheist morality. There are the various moral standards & principles expressed by various atheists, derived no doubt from a mix of sources, but as there is no coherent atheist 'belief' (it's an absence of belief, remember?), no heterogeneity amongst atheists (apart from that one lack of belief), there can be no logical set of morals or ethics that can be said to be 'atheist'. And as clever & learned a philosopher as AC Grayling is, if he claims that there is, he's wrong. Neither he, nor you, nor some pissant collection of middle eastern fairy tales, determines my ethics or morals.

I think it's worth pointing out that there's no such consistency among theists, either, a group which includes everyone who is not an atheist: pagans, popes, and neopythagorianists.