Belief in a "higher power"

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Re: Belief in a "higher power"

#121  Postby DavidMcC » Aug 01, 2017 5:27 pm

I suspect that, during NDEs, the pineal gland (which is a kind of methylation machine, basically, turning seratonin into melatonin), receives various chemicals that it doesn't normally receive, and as a result, starts to generate the kind of methylated chemicals that can give you hallucinations!
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Re: Belief in a "higher power"

#122  Postby proudfootz » Aug 04, 2017 3:44 am

It's funny how various oddities of our senses can be interpreted as real things.
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Re: Belief in a "higher power"

#123  Postby Wortfish » Sep 06, 2017 3:29 am

scott1328 wrote:
Remember, it is very difficult to reason someone out of a position that they didn't come to by reason.

There are some philosophers and scientists who were atheists/agnostics but who came to believe in deism through reason.
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Re: Belief in a "higher power"

#124  Postby Fallible » Sep 06, 2017 5:56 am

:rofl:
She battled through in every kind of tribulation,
She revelled in adventure and imagination.
She never listened to no hater, liar,
Breaking boundaries and chasing fire.
Oh, my my! Oh my, she flies!
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Re: Belief in a "higher power"

#125  Postby Scot Dutchy » Sep 06, 2017 7:15 am

I agree Fall. :thumbup:

It just does not rhyme. It is totally illogical.
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Re: Belief in a "higher power"

#126  Postby zulumoose » Sep 06, 2017 8:16 am

There are some philosophers and scientists who were claim to have been atheists/agnostics but who have convinced themselves that they came to believe in deism through reason.


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Re: Belief in a "higher power"

#127  Postby Scot Dutchy » Sep 06, 2017 9:26 am

Religion has no logic therefore reason is not part of it.
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Re: Belief in a "higher power"

#128  Postby BlackBart » Sep 06, 2017 10:45 am

Wortfish wrote:
scott1328 wrote:
Remember, it is very difficult to reason someone out of a position that they didn't come to by reason.

There are some philosophers and scientists who were atheists/agnostics but who came to believe in deism through reason.


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Re: Belief in a "higher power"

#129  Postby juju7 » Sep 06, 2017 2:04 pm

DavidMcC wrote:I suspect that, during NDEs, the pineal gland (which is a kind of methylation machine, basically, turning seratonin into melatonin), receives various chemicals that it doesn't normally receive, and as a result, starts to generate the kind of methylated chemicals that can give you hallucinations!

Yes, but as the brain shuts down the chemistry is likely to go haywire and the concentrations of neurotransmitters will go off balance.
It would be weird if there were no hallucinations.
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