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Re: Church of Atheism and atheist churches

#41  Postby Svartalf » Dec 16, 2019 10:49 am

newolder wrote:How will these new institutions based upon the lack of belief in someone else's imaginary friend(s) and that I won't be joining, affect my daily life?

Apparently you won't be able to make tax free charity donations to them... not that I expect you to spend a red cent on such a group anyway.
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Re: Church of Atheism and atheist churches

#42  Postby Svartalf » Dec 16, 2019 11:07 am

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And mendacity is at the core of yours, apparently. To what do we owe this pleasure, Wortles? Have you come a-trolling among the leaves so green, just as your ancestors went a-wassailing in the olden days during this merry Pagan festival they hijacked? Hmm? Or just at a loose end, so you thought you’d come and throw stones at the neighbours’ houses? Find something to do with yourself.


Atheists love to attack, denigrate and mock religious belief. They are not simply content to have no belief in God. Ever since coming to power in the 1920s, atheists have waged an existential war against religion. The stated goal of prominent atheists, like Richard Dawkins, is the complete and utter extirpation of religious belief. Theirs is a hate-filled ideology.

So should I convert to Islam and spread peace and love throughout the world? :ask:

Well, the Sword of Islam has gotten modernized and has taken the form of airplanes or explosive belts/vests in recent years...
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#43  Postby Svartalf » Dec 16, 2019 11:10 am

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Seabass wrote:It's a shame they didn't get ALL the priests... :sigh:

Lawyers first THEN the priests.

Lawyers AND politicians first... or course, in some areas, there seem to be quite a bit of overlap between the two.
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Re: Church of Atheism and atheist churches

#44  Postby newolder » Dec 16, 2019 11:54 am

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newolder wrote:How will these new institutions based upon the lack of belief in someone else's imaginary friend(s) and that I won't be joining, affect my daily life?

Apparently you won't be able to make tax free charity donations to them... not that I expect you to spend a red cent on such a group anyway.

Correct. This will affect my daily life in no way. I guess Worthless Wortfish (oops!) will not attempt an answer either. :dunno:
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Re: Church of Atheism and atheist churches

#45  Postby Alan B » Dec 16, 2019 2:34 pm

Wortfish wrote:I was referring to the atheist Soviet takeover of the Russian Empire. However, I could also have referred to the atheists of the French revolution who turned churches into wine cellars in the 1790s and executed thousands of priests.

Firstly, Stalin did not declare 'Atheism' as the reason for the revolution and secondly, the French revolution was about the royals and the priesthood keeping the populace in poverty. When Napoleon came to power he mused "Religion is useful for keeping control of the populace."
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Re: Church of Atheism and atheist churches

#46  Postby Svartalf » Dec 16, 2019 4:04 pm

well, even before napoleon came up and reestablished religion as an institution, an endeavour that will culminate in his signing a concordate with the pope, even Robespierre had found the usefulness of religion and tried to replace christianity with his aborted "cult of the supreme being" which, if I'm not mistaken, petered out as soon as he was shortened.
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Re: Church of Atheism and atheist churches

#47  Postby Alan B » Dec 16, 2019 4:20 pm

"Cult of the Supreme Being". Not heard of that one.

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Re: Church of Atheism and atheist churches

#48  Postby Mr. Skeptic » Jan 14, 2020 9:14 pm

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SafeAsMilk wrote:It is, at its core, a lack of belief in god(s). That is the universal commonality, and is therefore the most clear and concise definition. People can, of course, stack things on top of that.

I think it's hilarious that you're attempting to make a claim that atheism is a religion by pointing to an article where a federal court ruled that it isn't :lol: That's the whole of theistic argumentation in a nutshell -- try to foist your own weaknesses on others. Enjoy your crutch, you deserve each other.


The court ruled that religion involves belief in the supernatural. But there are pantheists who only believe in the natural. Atheism and pantheism are inextricably intertwined. I would claim that atheism is properly a "pseudo-religion" like Marxism/Communism.

Let us not also forget that there is a strong anti-theism current in atheism which is just as pernicious and bigoted as the antisemitism within the Labour party in the UK. Hatred is at the core of the atheist message.


It's not even a pseudo-religion. It doesn't have faith (in practice self-deception) or anything like a religion. Also Marxism and Communism accurately describes history and has a basis in fact, both historical and scientific.
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