Confusing a feeling of awe at the universe with spirituality

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Re: Confusing a feeling of awe at the universe with spirituality

#21  Postby The_Piper » Apr 01, 2017 1:14 pm

BlackBart wrote:
murshid wrote:I don't understand how people can rationally leap from "I am awestruck by the universe" to "I am experiencing God".


I suspect there's a certain amount of "I don't really believe any of this shit, but I don't want to upset or offend members of my family and community so I'll equivocate and describe a vague pantheistic 'God' and say I believe in that without coming up with an out and out lie."

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I did that with my own father recently. I'm a wuss. :nono: He doesn't require that I believe in god for his acceptance or whatnot, but thinking/knowing that I don't believe was bothering him.
It's a complicated phenomenon.

To be more on topic, when I first moved to the big woods I was still telling myself that I believe in god in the abstract. When I saw the richness and diversity of life and the environment on a day to day basis, it briefly reaffirmed my suspicion that there must be a higher power. Then I started to read the bible which is a harder to believe story than Mother Goose nursery rhymes, and that ended that line of thinking, for good. :lol:
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Re: Confusing a feeling of awe at the universe with spirituality

#22  Postby Arcanyn » Apr 01, 2017 1:42 pm

crank wrote:From a site, jewfaq.org :rofl: :
G-d
A way of avoiding writing a name of G-d, to avoid the risk of the sin of erasing or defacing the Name.


It should be a minus sign in there, there sure ain't much positive about a god. How is removing one letter from a name and replacing it with a mark not defacing the name?


It's not even the name of their deity, just the type of entity they believe their deity to be. Referring to Yahweh as "God" is much the same as referring to Jar-Jar Binks as "Gungan", or Clark Kent as "Kryptonian".
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Re: Confusing a feeling of awe at the universe with spirituality

#23  Postby LucidFlight » Apr 01, 2017 2:26 pm

tuco wrote:Neither do I and my conclusion is: a) I do not understand many things, b) people are different, c) I do not need to understand everything/one.

I do not understand people who dont like MIDI for example :P

j/k of course

Ahem. :smug:

I was referring to the "General MIDI" brass sample on, what was it, a Taylor Swift song? That was my way of saying it sounded like a badly-sampled, crappy preset on a GM sound card.

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Re: Confusing a feeling of awe at the universe with spirituality

#24  Postby tuco » Apr 01, 2017 2:32 pm

You take it/me seriously? Dont! This is how I show affinity and well .. gotta convert you to spirituality ;)
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Re: Confusing a feeling of awe at the universe with spirituality

#25  Postby LucidFlight » Apr 01, 2017 2:51 pm

I was thinking to put j/k, but I wanted to test your spirituality ;)
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Re: Confusing a feeling of awe at the universe with spirituality

#26  Postby The_Piper » Apr 01, 2017 6:28 pm

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Re: Confusing a feeling of awe at the universe with spirituality

#27  Postby laklak » Apr 01, 2017 10:00 pm

BlackBart wrote:I suspect there's a certain amount of "I don't really believe any of this shit, but I don't want to upset or offend members of my family and community so I'll equivocate and describe a vague pantheistic 'God' and say I believe in that without coming up with an out and out lie."


I usually say, "well, I believe there's something out there..."

Like stars, and planets, and big clouds of hydrogen, and other shit.
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Re: Confusing a feeling of awe at the universe with spirituality

#28  Postby Mazille » Apr 01, 2017 10:12 pm

Haven't read the thread. I don't really care about what she has to say.
Just from the description next to the video: "thorough, humorous and touching explanation ".
How far do you have to get your head up your ass to be physically able to write that sort of stuff about a video you recorded on your laptop's preinstalled webcam in your fucking bedroom?
Also, isn't she one of the women on Big Bang Theory?

ETA: I've finished reading the thread. Turns out I shouldn't have bothered. My point stands.
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Re: Confusing a feeling of awe at the universe with spirituality

#29  Postby murshid » Apr 03, 2017 6:53 pm

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Re: Confusing a feeling of awe at the universe with spirituality

#30  Postby laklak » Apr 04, 2017 4:29 pm

When I hear the word "spiritual" I reach for my Browning.
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Re: Confusing a feeling of awe at the universe with spirituality

#31  Postby Macdoc » Apr 04, 2017 4:39 pm

strychnine is far more elegant..
barbarian .... :coffee:
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