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Kyx wrote:If God was all knowing, he would be able to predict correctly exactly what would happen in the future, including his own actions. This means that he would not be able to control his own actions, since they are predetermined, meaning he is not all powerful.
If God was all powerful, he would be able to do whatever he wanted, including change his mind. This means that he would not be all knowing, because he would not be able to predict his change of mind (and if he could predict it, he would not be all powerful, see paragraph above).
This has been discussed over and over again, look up omnipotence, omniscience, and omnipresence.
chairman bill wrote:Ah, but God transcends mere mortal logic. And there's mysteries. You forgot mysteries. So there.
Matthew Shute wrote:It still has the problem (a problem from a certain kind of theist's point of view, anyway) of getting rid of sin. Sin is whatever is contrary to the will of God. Well, God has just willed literally every possible configuration of matter/energy/space into existence - so no single possibility remains that can be called contrary to the will of God. So there's no sin. QED. Also, since nothing can go against the will of God, and whatever God wills is good, which in this case is 100% of everything, the whole omnibenevolence thing is redundant (along, as you say, with God himself).
Dimpleby leaned back and steepled his fingers. "Hmmm. Whereas genuine evil . . . ?"
"Murder, violence, lying, cheating, theft," Lucifer enumerated. "Sin, on the other hand, essentially includes anything that looks like it might be fun."
Well, I reckon I can often correctly predict my own actions, but I'm not sure I negate my freewill by doing so. I mean, I predict I'll be getting a drink in a sec. I could do otherwise, of course, and some might say that's why I have freewill. But just because I could do otherwise, doesn't mean I will. And here I go, just as I predicted....Kyx wrote:If God was all knowing, he would be able to predict correctly exactly what would happen in the future, including his own actions. This means that he would not be able to control his own actions, since they are predetermined, meaning he is not all powerful.
chairman bill wrote:Ah, but God transcends mere mortal logic. And there's mysteries. You forgot mysteries. So there.
John Platko wrote:
Keep working at it, soon the "almost" will be gone. I've been learning about Tulpamancy - with a little meditation work hearing God chuckle should be no problem.
VazScep wrote:A consistent being isn't worthy of worship.
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