Who wants to do it?
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THWOTH wrote:Nora_Leonard wrote:
What I was trying to say is that we're used to talk about the need for 'secular' society, whereas I don't think they speak in those terms in the US. Of course I could be wrong, as I don't live there, I live here.
I'm only teasing you. I don't want to derail the topc, but (ha!) I would say that though the US may be secular in there being no state-religion there is hardly a distinction or separation between religion and the state, or a very real freedom from religion in great parts of the public and political life.
pelfdaddy wrote:Everyone who has commented thus far has been helpful, and seems to really get the drift of the idea. This is good. I need to settle on a date for this... thoughts?
pelfdaddy wrote:And a name... it's unavoidable. I'll take any suggestions you may wish to put forward.
Nora_Leonard wrote:THWOTH wrote:Nora_Leonard wrote:
What I was trying to say is that we're used to talk about the need for 'secular' society, whereas I don't think they speak in those terms in the US. Of course I could be wrong, as I don't live there, I live here.
I'm only teasing you. I don't want to derail the topc, but (ha!) I would say that though the US may be secular in there being no state-religion there is hardly a distinction or separation between religion and the state, or a very real freedom from religion in great parts of the public and political life.
Agreed. But I was just talking semantics really, or even opening gambits for any atheists who would take up the challenge. So whereas an atheist at a church in Britain would have the history of a public discussion about the secular society to reference, I don't think the same terms would work in the US.
mattwilson wrote:One thinks maybe a Sunday would be better?
THWOTH wrote:Then we need a week of action, not just a day.
Precambrian Rabbi wrote:
The idea seems excellent on a rational board like this, frequented mainly by considerate adults, but once it hits the wider intertubez, I would be concerned that it might attract people who, by intent or misunderstanding, mistake the idea for a more aggressive or confrontational type of engagement. I would give this some consideration if it were me and, at the very least, would make sure I was absolutely clear to emphasis the purpose and tone expected.
mattwilson wrote:One question, do you think that religious folks don't care when someone dies because they'll be in heaven?
The last funeral I went to it was all religiotards who were balling...
Nora_Leonard wrote:Perhaps if the emphasis was placed on a wish to seek fellowship and engagement rather than confrontation?
Precambrian Rabbi wrote:Nora_Leonard wrote:Perhaps if the emphasis was placed on a wish to seek fellowship and engagement rather than confrontation?
I certainly think that should be the tactic and maybe the expression of that sentiment might be 'hippy' enough to put off anyone more inclined to stirring up trouble. I am just concious of the sadly unbreakable and omnipresent law that for every hundred or so well-meaning individuals attempting genuine engagement to reconcile or at least understand and accept a variant perspective, it only takes 1 or 2 asshats who've brought their axe's to grind, on either side, to make the situation go, potentially, horribly wrong.
I suspect that I am being overly anxious but it is best to be prepared. In principal, to be clear, I think it's an excellent idea and one that I would support (although I agree with the earlier poster that it probably makes more sense in the US than the UK).
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