aufbahrung wrote:Obviously using a word like 'salad' to dismiss a credible alternative to the common mans inderstanding of reality is the top echelon in argument if it wasn't a nirvana fallacy built on kettle logic.

Spearthrower wrote:This is the sum total of 'support' you've provided for your claims:

aufbahrung wrote:Because I see the simulation hypothesis as the best explanation for the world as experienced intelligent design cannot be thrown out with the dishwater of religious creationism.

The best explanation for the world.

Question already asked: for the world what? Do you mean for the world's existence? Do you mean for the properties found in the world? Do you mean something else?

Point already made to you by numerous people: the simulation hypothesis isn't an explanation, no one who knows anything about it would suggest otherwise.

You seem to think the Matrix is a documentary.

hackenslash wrote:
It's interesting that this is the same language used by cdesign proponentsists in their defence of cretinism, no?

Spearthrower wrote:I often wonder what effect they had on the current parlous state of fake news, false equivalence, and abject failure to distinguish between what can be said to be fact and what we might prefer to be true.

There are various forms of social stratification such as class, race, sexual orientation, age, religion, creed, disability, and gender, which are included in the consideration of intersectional feminism and its social and cultural effects. The purpose of intersectionality as a theory is to identify how overlapping categories of identity impact individuals and institutions, and take these relationships into account when working to promote social and political equity. While the theory began as an exploration of the oppression of women of color within society, today the analysis has expanded to include many more aspects of social identity. Intersectionality may also be related to the term triple oppression, which engages with similar themes.

Intersectionality has been critiqued as being ambiguous and open-ended. As it is based in standpoint theory, critics say the focus on subjective experiences can lead to contradictions and the inability to identify common causes of oppression.

aufbahrung wrote:Storm is right about big pharma. Profit motive is everything. Lots of drugs that have 51/49 brexit success rations classed as wild successes like brexit. Althought that metaphor will be lost on literalists. Some drugs do work but so do some natuaral remedies. Ginko Biloba is good when combined with Ginseng. But Big Pharma using its clout to shut down trade in natural remedies. Not using its clout to shut down the sugar industry is it?

Lots of drugs that have 51/49 brexit success rations classed as wild successes like brexit. Althought that metaphor will be lost on literalists.

Cito di Pense wrote:

aufbahrung wrote:Storm is right about big pharma. Profit motive is everything. Lots of drugs that have 51/49 brexit success rations classed as wild successes like brexit. Althought that metaphor will be lost on literalists. Some drugs do work but so do some natuaral remedies. Ginko Biloba is good when combined with Ginseng. But Big Pharma using its clout to shut down trade in natural remedies. Not using its clout to shut down the sugar industry is it?

OK, now I see what your problem is. What would you substitute for "profit motive"? With God out of the picture, who's there to take care of us and pursue the cause of justice? Not that this isn't a derail from something (simulation) that was already a derail when you started it. Attention deficit, much?

Nah, not necessarily. But your last derail has been comprehensively shown to be pure shit. Time to move on, eh?

aufbahrung wrote:

Cito di Pense wrote:

aufbahrung wrote:Storm is right about big pharma. Profit motive is everything. Lots of drugs that have 51/49 brexit success rations classed as wild successes like brexit. Althought that metaphor will be lost on literalists. Some drugs do work but so do some natuaral remedies. Ginko Biloba is good when combined with Ginseng. But Big Pharma using its clout to shut down trade in natural remedies. Not using its clout to shut down the sugar industry is it?

OK, now I see what your problem is. What would you substitute for "profit motive"? With God out of the picture, who's there to take care of us and pursue the cause of justice? Not that this isn't a derail from something (simulation) that was already a derail when you started it. Attention deficit, much?

Nah, not necessarily. But your last derail has been comprehensively shown to be pure shit. Time to move on, eh?

I'm OK with the profit motive at the individual level, glorious to be wealthy. Things like Big Pharma should be regulated and embedded within the state apparatus since they will not invest in cures outside a spartan few that brings them easy monies. I'm very much a two systems one state proponent in regards what actually works these days to produce economic growth etc. I am not and have not been a communist for a long time however.

Cito di Pense wrote:

aufbahrung wrote:

Cito di Pense wrote:

aufbahrung wrote:Storm is right about big pharma. Profit motive is everything. Lots of drugs that have 51/49 brexit success rations classed as wild successes like brexit. Althought that metaphor will be lost on literalists. Some drugs do work but so do some natuaral remedies. Ginko Biloba is good when combined with Ginseng. But Big Pharma using its clout to shut down trade in natural remedies. Not using its clout to shut down the sugar industry is it?

OK, now I see what your problem is. What would you substitute for "profit motive"? With God out of the picture, who's there to take care of us and pursue the cause of justice? Not that this isn't a derail from something (simulation) that was already a derail when you started it. Attention deficit, much?

Nah, not necessarily. But your last derail has been comprehensively shown to be pure shit. Time to move on, eh?

I'm OK with the profit motive at the individual level, glorious to be wealthy. Things like Big Pharma should be regulated and embedded within the state apparatus since they will not invest in cures outside a spartan few that brings them easy monies. I'm very much a two systems one state proponent in regards what actually works these days to produce economic growth etc. I am not and have not been a communist for a long time however.

Is our world a simulation? If so, you can blame the simulators for Big Pharma. Better yet, you could just go back to bed and quit trying to pretend to be thinking about anything specific. This is all going to end up in another pointless thread of yours if you keep it up.

aufbahrung wrote:
As I say, need to spend a few weeks to collect my thoughts on the subject of the simulation hypothesis - maybe check out a few youtubes on the matter(nothing heavy - matrix level discussions will set my thinking head off) and try to bring it all into focus to take this thread forwards.

aufbahrung wrote:Quantum computing should provide evidence. I don't know how but it should with all its computing powers. With evidence my belief will become fact.

aufbahrung wrote:

Cito di Pense wrote:

aufbahrung wrote:

Cito di Pense wrote:

OK, now I see what your problem is. What would you substitute for "profit motive"? With God out of the picture, who's there to take care of us and pursue the cause of justice? Not that this isn't a derail from something (simulation) that was already a derail when you started it. Attention deficit, much?

Nah, not necessarily. But your last derail has been comprehensively shown to be pure shit. Time to move on, eh?

I'm OK with the profit motive at the individual level, glorious to be wealthy. Things like Big Pharma should be regulated and embedded within the state apparatus since they will not invest in cures outside a spartan few that brings them easy monies. I'm very much a two systems one state proponent in regards what actually works these days to produce economic growth etc. I am not and have not been a communist for a long time however.

Is our world a simulation? If so, you can blame the simulators for Big Pharma. Better yet, you could just go back to bed and quit trying to pretend to be thinking about anything specific. This is all going to end up in another pointless thread of yours if you keep it up.

As I say, need to spend a few weeks to collect my thoughts on the subject of the simulation hypothesis - maybe check out a few youtubes on the matter(nothing heavy - matrix level discussions will set my thinking head off) and try to bring it all into focus to take this thread forwards.

Fallible wrote:

aufbahrung wrote:As I say, need to spend a few weeks to collect my thoughts on the subject of the simulation hypothesis - maybe check out a few youtubes on the matter(nothing heavy - matrix level discussions will set my thinking head off) and try to bring it all into focus to take this thread forwards.

aufbahrung wrote:Storm is right about big pharma. Profit motive is everything. Lots of drugs that have 51/49 brexit success rations classed as wild successes like brexit. Althought that metaphor will be lost on literalists. Some drugs do work but so do some natuaral remedies. Ginko Biloba is good when combined with Ginseng. But Big Pharma using its clout to shut down trade in natural remedies. Not using its clout to shut down the sugar industry is it?

BlackBart wrote:

aufbahrung wrote:Storm is right about big pharma. Profit motive is everything. Lots of drugs that have 51/49 brexit success rations classed as wild successes like brexit. Althought that metaphor will be lost on literalists. Some drugs do work but so do some natuaral remedies. Ginko Biloba is good when combined with Ginseng. But Big Pharma using its clout to shut down trade in natural remedies. Not using its clout to shut down the sugar industry is it?

Focus aufbahrung. The topic is is the universe a simulation. You're not being taken seriously as it is without being distracted by trivia that enters your field of vision.

aufbahrung wrote:As I say, need to spend a few weeks to collect my thoughts on the subject of the simulation hypothesis - maybe check out a few youtubes on the matter(nothing heavy - matrix level discussions will set my thinking head off) and try to bring it all into focus to take this thread forwards.