OlivierK wrote:I'm not sure if you know this, but "surlies" are artworks (jewellery, on the whole) produced by "Surly" Amy Davis Roth.
Even more kinky then.
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Re: Ratskep on Atheism+
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by Made of Stars » Feb 25, 2014 12:11 pm
Even more kinky then.
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Re: Ratskep on Atheism+
#9262 by tolman » Feb 25, 2014 12:27 pm
OlivierK wrote:I'm not sure if you know this, but "surlies" are artworks (jewellery, on the whole) produced by "Surly" Amy Davis Roth.
Indeed.
Isn't she the one who supposedly had an attack of the vapours upon seeing a woman wearing a T-shirt which failed to agree with her?
I don't do sarcasm smileys, but someone as bright as you has probably figured that out already.
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Re: Ratskep on Atheism+
#9263 by Fallible » Feb 25, 2014 12:32 pm
Oh, is that her? Should be Silly Amy.
She battled through in every kind of tribulation,
She revelled in adventure and imagination.
She never listened to no hater, liar,
Breaking boundaries and chasing fire.
Oh, my my! Oh my, she flies!
She revelled in adventure and imagination.
She never listened to no hater, liar,
Breaking boundaries and chasing fire.
Oh, my my! Oh my, she flies!
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Re: Ratskep on Atheism+
#9264 by Nicko » Feb 25, 2014 12:42 pm
That's her.
The idea of people like Amy Roth and Rebecca Watson being casualties of the same manufactured outrage that they themselves modeled to their adoring followers is just too delicious.
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Re: Ratskep on Atheism+
#9265 by orpheus » Feb 25, 2014 1:23 pm
I miss Douglas Adams.
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Re: Ratskep on Atheism+
#9266 by tolman » Feb 25, 2014 1:30 pm
Scarlett wrote:As Fall suggested, how can these people even have conversations. One of them even admitted to making an "ableist slur" while telling the others off for ableist slurs
I can see how they might have conversations as long as they agree with each other, but it's hard to see how they could have sustainable arguments.
'That's stupid' isn't fundamentally different from 'that's wrong', except that in the latter case, there are two basic possibilities - someone saying something wrong while knowing it's wrong (ie lying) or saying something wrong due to being too ignorant or thick to realise it is wrong or to idle to have thought sufficiently about it.
Some kind of ableist narrative could be concocted to portray any of the reasons for being wrong as being some kind of disability.
Someone overanalysing a disagreement is likely to come to the conclusion that someone disagreeing with them is implicitly suggesting one or more deficiencies on their part.
The adult way of dealing with that, at least for people who think they have a good case to put and the ability to put it, is to ignore the perceived slurs and concentrate on the argument.
The wannabe social justice warrior way appears to largely involve throwing toys out of the pram.
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Re: Ratskep on Atheism+
#9268 by Skinny Puppy » Feb 25, 2014 2:29 pm
The offensive T-shirt worn by Harriet Hall.
Amy expresses an intelligent and mature response...
“I think one of the most hurtful things I experienced while attending TAM was Harriet Hall’s Tshirt that she wore three days in a row. I told her through tears, in the speakers’ lounge, that it was dehumanizing and gender/color blind and very hurtful to me specifically as a person who does have to deal with harassment regularly.”
Surly Amy
Some info here.
http://thunderf00tdotorg.wordpress.com/2012/07/24/skepchick-embrace-victim-hood/
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Re: Ratskep on Atheism+
#9269 by LucidFlight » Feb 25, 2014 3:10 pm
Oh, man. This thread. I hope you've all been remembering to check your fucking privilege.
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Re: Ratskep on Atheism+
#9271 by orpheus » Feb 25, 2014 3:50 pm
LucidFlight wrote:Oh, man. This thread. I hope you've all been remembering to check your fucking privilege.
I think mine's in our storage closet. It might take me a while to find it; it's a mess in there.
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Re: Ratskep on Atheism+
#9272 by Scarlett » Feb 25, 2014 4:02 pm
LucidFlight wrote:Oh, man. This thread. I hope you've all been remembering to check your fucking privilege.
But... but... mine, being a woman an' all, is only small and I lost it
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Re: Ratskep on Atheism+
#9273 by tolman » Feb 25, 2014 5:09 pm
What, I have a fucking privilege?
Why did no-one tell me, and where can I use it?
Why did no-one tell me, and where can I use it?
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Re: Ratskep on Atheism+
#9274 by Skinny Puppy » Feb 25, 2014 5:51 pm
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Re: Ratskep on Atheism+
#9275 by Pulsar » Feb 25, 2014 5:56 pm
"The longer I live the more I see that I am never wrong about anything, and that all the pains that I have so humbly taken to verify my notions have only wasted my time." - George Bernard Shaw
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Re: Ratskep on Atheism+
#9276 by laklak » Feb 25, 2014 6:02 pm
LucidFlight wrote:Oh, man. This thread. I hope you've all been remembering to check your fucking privilege.
Lets see, umm, White - check. Male - check. Cisgendered - check. Straight - check.
Yep, seems I still got it. I am SUCH a dude. What you little babes up to tonight? Wanna cook me a steak and clean the house?
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Re: Ratskep on Atheism+
#9277 by Regina » Feb 25, 2014 6:26 pm
laklak wrote:LucidFlight wrote:Oh, man. This thread. I hope you've all been remembering to check your fucking privilege.
Lets see, umm, White - check. Male - check. Cisgendered - check. Straight - check.
Yep, seems I still got it. I am SUCH a dude. What you little babes up to tonight? Wanna cook me a steak and clean the house?
Since when are guys interested in clean houses? That's a new one.
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Re: Ratskep on Atheism+
#9278 by Scarlett » Feb 25, 2014 6:38 pm
Regina wrote:laklak wrote:LucidFlight wrote:Oh, man. This thread. I hope you've all been remembering to check your fucking privilege.
Lets see, umm, White - check. Male - check. Cisgendered - check. Straight - check.
Yep, seems I still got it. I am SUCH a dude. What you little babes up to tonight? Wanna cook me a steak and clean the house?
Since when are guys interested in clean houses? That's a new one.
He's obviously closet gay then
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Re: Ratskep on Atheism+
#9279 by OlivierK » Feb 25, 2014 9:53 pm
Nicko wrote:The idea of people like Amy Roth and Rebecca Watson being casualties of the same manufactured outrage that they themselves modeled to their adoring followers is just too delicious.
Yeah, the Karma bus is busy right now. Amy Roth is having to deal with people who don't like the words on her poster, and Watson has waded in as a third party to chide someone who essentially said "Guys, don't do that."
I imagine the irony is lost on them, but perhaps some of it might seep through and create some awareness.
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Re: Ratskep on Atheism+
#9280 by Skinny Puppy » Feb 26, 2014 4:31 am
Episode I
The Ceramic Menace
Turmoil has engulfed the TAM
convention. The wearing of a T-shirt
has offended the dead of brain.
Hoping to resolve the matter with a
blockade of deadly, weepy-eyed tears,
Amy has stopped all ceramic sales and
flounced out of TAM vowing revenge.
While the organizers of TAM endlessly
debate this alarming nonsense and
stupidity, the Supreme Lady Becky has
secretly dispatched an elevator to TAM
with a stern warning of Guys, don’t do that!
Episode II
Attack of the Internet Clowns
There is unrest on the Internet forums.
Several hundred kissers of ass have
declared that the word stupid is ableist
and just plan not nice... O the humanity!
This separatist A + hole movement, under
the leadership of the mysterious Count
Grimalkin, has made it difficult for the
limited number of active brain cells on Skepchick
to maintain peace and order in La-La Land.
Senator Tyler, the former King of
Tu Quoque Land, has returned to the fray
and vows to make this very very clear here:
Amy and Lady Becky committed not-niceness.
Episode III
Revenge of the Hurt of Butt
War! Skepchick is crumbling under
attacks by the ruthless Count Grimalkin
There are whiney babies on both sides.
Nonsense is everywhere. Stupidity
has reached new and glorious heights.
In a stunning move, their fiendish, butt-hurt
leader, Lady Becky, has doubled down
and has told her minions that stupid
is just a word. Well, she should know!
As the A + hole Army attempts to
flee the besieged forum holding the
offensive valentine hostage, White Knights
appear everywhere and try to save the
day by being “Holier than Thou”.
(Episode IV to VI are in post production.)
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