"Reza Aslan Revealed as Academic Fraud"

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"Reza Aslan Revealed as Academic Fraud"

#1  Postby murshid » Sep 18, 2015 11:08 am

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Can anyone check if this is true?


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Re: "Reza Aslan Revealed as Academic Fraud"

#2  Postby murshid » Sep 18, 2015 11:11 am

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I found this on Wikipedia (not sure how accurate it is): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reza_Aslan#Academic_credentials
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Re: "Reza Aslan Revealed as Academic Fraud"

#3  Postby quas » Sep 18, 2015 11:54 am

So much schadenfreude over nothing.
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Re: "Reza Aslan Revealed as Academic Fraud"

#4  Postby NineBerry » Sep 19, 2015 12:51 pm

This guy Lalo Dagach is an idiot. First error spotted:

He shows a snippet from the Fox interview where Reza says he is a professor on Religion. Lalo Dagach then says that Reza Aslan is not a professor of religion but a professor of creative writing. Yes, true. Reza is not a professor on Religion but a professor on creative writing. But that interview is from 2013. And in 2013, Reza Aslan was a professor on religion! D'Oh!
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#5  Postby Shrunk » Sep 19, 2015 3:50 pm

I don't care what his academic credentials are. His arguments are shit, regardless.
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#6  Postby murshid » Sep 19, 2015 5:13 pm

I do care if he's lying about his academic credentials IN ADDITION TO his lies about Islam.
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Re: "Reza Aslan Revealed as Academic Fraud"

#7  Postby quas » Sep 19, 2015 5:43 pm

Who is he harming with his lies?
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Re: "Reza Aslan Revealed as Academic Fraud"

#8  Postby NineBerry » Sep 19, 2015 9:32 pm

murshid wrote:I do care if he's lying about his academic credentials IN ADDITION TO his lies about Islam.


What are his lies about Islam? I've read "No God but God" and "How to Win a Cosmic War" and they are both sensible books with ideas I could not object to. Especially the first one had a very scholarly approach making a clear distinction between facts and opinion.
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#9  Postby SkyMutt » Sep 19, 2015 10:50 pm

NineBerry wrote:This guy Lalo Dagach is an idiot. First error spotted:

He shows a snippet from the Fox interview where Reza says he is a professor on Religion. Lalo Dagach then says that Reza Aslan is not a professor of religion but a professor of creative writing. Yes, true. Reza is not a professor on Religion but a professor on creative writing. But that interview is from 2013. And in 2013, Reza Aslan was a professor on religion! D'Oh!


Do you have a source for this? I know that Aslan has a BA in religion, but it would be good to have corroboration of his other claim.
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#11  Postby SkyMutt » Sep 20, 2015 2:49 pm

Thank you, NineBerry. :thumbup:
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Re: "Reza Aslan Revealed as Academic Fraud"

#12  Postby murshid » Sep 20, 2015 5:16 pm

Thanks a lot, NineBerry.
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Re: "Reza Aslan Revealed as Academic Fraud"

#13  Postby Matt_B » Sep 20, 2015 10:47 pm

NineBerry wrote:This guy Lalo Dagach is an idiot. First error spotted:

He shows a snippet from the Fox interview where Reza says he is a professor on Religion. Lalo Dagach then says that Reza Aslan is not a professor of religion but a professor of creative writing. Yes, true. Reza is not a professor on Religion but a professor on creative writing. But that interview is from 2013. And in 2013, Reza Aslan was a professor on religion! D'Oh!


Some might ask what the big difference between religion and creative writing is anyway? ;)
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Re: "Reza Aslan Revealed as Academic Fraud"

#14  Postby laklak » Sep 21, 2015 2:25 am

Some creative writing is interesting.
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Re: "Reza Aslan Revealed as Academic Fraud"

#15  Postby Spearthrower » Oct 05, 2015 9:56 am

laklak wrote:Some creative writing is interesting.



Aww come on! Genesis is like Disney's Fantasia!
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Re: "Reza Aslan Revealed as Academic Fraud"

#16  Postby Spearthrower » Oct 05, 2015 9:58 am

NineBerry wrote:
murshid wrote:I do care if he's lying about his academic credentials IN ADDITION TO his lies about Islam.


What are his lies about Islam? I've read "No God but God" and "How to Win a Cosmic War" and they are both sensible books with ideas I could not object to. Especially the first one had a very scholarly approach making a clear distinction between facts and opinion.



I concur. There are obviously lots of things Aslan believes which I think are gibbering tosh, but he makes very good points in a number of topics which I can't really dispute.
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#17  Postby Sendraks » Oct 05, 2015 10:03 am

murshid wrote:I do care if he's lying about his academic credentials....


"Professor of"......is a job title, as opposed to an academic credential.

And people change jobs from time to time.

BSc, MSc, BA, MA, PHD - are academic credentials.
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#18  Postby Rachel Bronwyn » Oct 05, 2015 10:09 am

And Reza Aslan is a BA, MTS, MFA and PhD.
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#19  Postby WayOfTheDodo » Oct 06, 2015 10:52 pm

Reza Aslan is a fraud in general. Fuck him.
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#20  Postby CdesignProponentsist » Oct 07, 2015 1:01 am

Spearthrower wrote:
laklak wrote:Some creative writing is interesting.



Aww come on! Genesis is like Disney's Fantasia!


Meh, I prefer J.R.R Tolkien's Silmarillion.
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