"Reza Aslan Revealed as Academic Fraud"

Can anyone check if this is true?

Atheism, secularism & freethought etc.

Moderators: kiore, Blip, The_Metatron

"Reza Aslan Revealed as Academic Fraud"

#1  Postby murshid » Sep 18, 2015 11:08 am

.
Can anyone check if this is true?


.
"Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?" – Douglas Adams
User avatar
murshid
THREAD STARTER
 
Name: Murshid
Posts: 9237
Male

Print view this post

Re: "Reza Aslan Revealed as Academic Fraud"

#2  Postby murshid » Sep 18, 2015 11:11 am

.
I found this on Wikipedia (not sure how accurate it is): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reza_Aslan#Academic_credentials
.
"Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?" – Douglas Adams
User avatar
murshid
THREAD STARTER
 
Name: Murshid
Posts: 9237
Male

Print view this post

Re: "Reza Aslan Revealed as Academic Fraud"

#3  Postby quas » Sep 18, 2015 11:54 am

So much schadenfreude over nothing.
The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem
those who think alike than those who think differently. -Nietzsche
User avatar
quas
 
Posts: 2997

Print view this post

Re: "Reza Aslan Revealed as Academic Fraud"

#4  Postby NineBerry » Sep 19, 2015 12:51 pm

This guy Lalo Dagach is an idiot. First error spotted:

He shows a snippet from the Fox interview where Reza says he is a professor on Religion. Lalo Dagach then says that Reza Aslan is not a professor of religion but a professor of creative writing. Yes, true. Reza is not a professor on Religion but a professor on creative writing. But that interview is from 2013. And in 2013, Reza Aslan was a professor on religion! D'Oh!
User avatar
NineBerry
RS Donator
 
Posts: 6133
Age: 45
Male

Country: nSk
Print view this post

Re: "Reza Aslan Revealed as Academic Fraud"

#5  Postby Shrunk » Sep 19, 2015 3:50 pm

I don't care what his academic credentials are. His arguments are shit, regardless.
"A community is infinitely more brutalised by the habitual employment of punishment than it is by the occasional occurrence of crime." -Oscar Wilde
User avatar
Shrunk
 
Posts: 26170
Age: 59
Male

Country: Canada
Canada (ca)
Print view this post

Re: "Reza Aslan Revealed as Academic Fraud"

#6  Postby murshid » Sep 19, 2015 5:13 pm

I do care if he's lying about his academic credentials IN ADDITION TO his lies about Islam.
.
"Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?" – Douglas Adams
User avatar
murshid
THREAD STARTER
 
Name: Murshid
Posts: 9237
Male

Print view this post

Re: "Reza Aslan Revealed as Academic Fraud"

#7  Postby quas » Sep 19, 2015 5:43 pm

Who is he harming with his lies?
The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem
those who think alike than those who think differently. -Nietzsche
User avatar
quas
 
Posts: 2997

Print view this post

Re: "Reza Aslan Revealed as Academic Fraud"

#8  Postby NineBerry » Sep 19, 2015 9:32 pm

murshid wrote:I do care if he's lying about his academic credentials IN ADDITION TO his lies about Islam.


What are his lies about Islam? I've read "No God but God" and "How to Win a Cosmic War" and they are both sensible books with ideas I could not object to. Especially the first one had a very scholarly approach making a clear distinction between facts and opinion.
User avatar
NineBerry
RS Donator
 
Posts: 6133
Age: 45
Male

Country: nSk
Print view this post

Re: "Reza Aslan Revealed as Academic Fraud"

#9  Postby SkyMutt » Sep 19, 2015 10:50 pm

NineBerry wrote:This guy Lalo Dagach is an idiot. First error spotted:

He shows a snippet from the Fox interview where Reza says he is a professor on Religion. Lalo Dagach then says that Reza Aslan is not a professor of religion but a professor of creative writing. Yes, true. Reza is not a professor on Religion but a professor on creative writing. But that interview is from 2013. And in 2013, Reza Aslan was a professor on religion! D'Oh!


Do you have a source for this? I know that Aslan has a BA in religion, but it would be good to have corroboration of his other claim.
Serious, but not entirely serious.
User avatar
SkyMutt
 
Posts: 856
Age: 65
Male

Country: United States
Print view this post


Re: "Reza Aslan Revealed as Academic Fraud"

#11  Postby SkyMutt » Sep 20, 2015 2:49 pm

Thank you, NineBerry. :thumbup:
Serious, but not entirely serious.
User avatar
SkyMutt
 
Posts: 856
Age: 65
Male

Country: United States
Print view this post

Re: "Reza Aslan Revealed as Academic Fraud"

#12  Postby murshid » Sep 20, 2015 5:16 pm

Thanks a lot, NineBerry.
.
"Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?" – Douglas Adams
User avatar
murshid
THREAD STARTER
 
Name: Murshid
Posts: 9237
Male

Print view this post

Re: "Reza Aslan Revealed as Academic Fraud"

#13  Postby Matt_B » Sep 20, 2015 10:47 pm

NineBerry wrote:This guy Lalo Dagach is an idiot. First error spotted:

He shows a snippet from the Fox interview where Reza says he is a professor on Religion. Lalo Dagach then says that Reza Aslan is not a professor of religion but a professor of creative writing. Yes, true. Reza is not a professor on Religion but a professor on creative writing. But that interview is from 2013. And in 2013, Reza Aslan was a professor on religion! D'Oh!


Some might ask what the big difference between religion and creative writing is anyway? ;)
"Last night was the most horrific for Kyiv since, just imagine, 1941 when it was attacked by Nazis."
- Sergiy Kyslytsya
User avatar
Matt_B
 
Posts: 4888
Male

Country: Australia
Ukraine (ua)
Print view this post

Re: "Reza Aslan Revealed as Academic Fraud"

#14  Postby laklak » Sep 21, 2015 2:25 am

Some creative writing is interesting.
A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way. - Mark Twain
The sky is falling! The sky is falling! - Chicken Little
I never go without my dinner. No one ever does, except vegetarians and people like that - Oscar Wilde
User avatar
laklak
RS Donator
 
Name: Florida Man
Posts: 20878
Age: 70
Male

Country: The Great Satan
Swaziland (sz)
Print view this post

Re: "Reza Aslan Revealed as Academic Fraud"

#15  Postby Spearthrower » Oct 05, 2015 9:56 am

laklak wrote:Some creative writing is interesting.



Aww come on! Genesis is like Disney's Fantasia!
I'm not an atheist; I just don't believe in gods :- that which I don't belong to isn't a group!
Religion: Mass Stockholm Syndrome

Learn Stuff. Stuff good. https://www.coursera.org/
User avatar
Spearthrower
 
Posts: 33854
Age: 47
Male

Country: Thailand
Print view this post

Re: "Reza Aslan Revealed as Academic Fraud"

#16  Postby Spearthrower » Oct 05, 2015 9:58 am

NineBerry wrote:
murshid wrote:I do care if he's lying about his academic credentials IN ADDITION TO his lies about Islam.


What are his lies about Islam? I've read "No God but God" and "How to Win a Cosmic War" and they are both sensible books with ideas I could not object to. Especially the first one had a very scholarly approach making a clear distinction between facts and opinion.



I concur. There are obviously lots of things Aslan believes which I think are gibbering tosh, but he makes very good points in a number of topics which I can't really dispute.
I'm not an atheist; I just don't believe in gods :- that which I don't belong to isn't a group!
Religion: Mass Stockholm Syndrome

Learn Stuff. Stuff good. https://www.coursera.org/
User avatar
Spearthrower
 
Posts: 33854
Age: 47
Male

Country: Thailand
Print view this post

Re: "Reza Aslan Revealed as Academic Fraud"

#17  Postby Sendraks » Oct 05, 2015 10:03 am

murshid wrote:I do care if he's lying about his academic credentials....


"Professor of"......is a job title, as opposed to an academic credential.

And people change jobs from time to time.

BSc, MSc, BA, MA, PHD - are academic credentials.
"One of the great tragedies of mankind is that morality has been hijacked by religion." - Arthur C Clarke

"'Science doesn't know everything' - Well science knows it doesn't know everything, otherwise it'd stop" - Dara O'Brian
User avatar
Sendraks
 
Name: D-Money Jr
Posts: 15260
Age: 107
Male

Country: England
Print view this post

Re: "Reza Aslan Revealed as Academic Fraud"

#18  Postby Rachel Bronwyn » Oct 05, 2015 10:09 am

And Reza Aslan is a BA, MTS, MFA and PhD.
what a terrible image
User avatar
Rachel Bronwyn
 
Name: speaking moistly
Posts: 13595
Age: 35
Female

Canada (ca)
Print view this post

Re: "Reza Aslan Revealed as Academic Fraud"

#19  Postby WayOfTheDodo » Oct 06, 2015 10:52 pm

Reza Aslan is a fraud in general. Fuck him.
User avatar
WayOfTheDodo
 
Name: Raphus Cucullatus
Posts: 2096

Mauritius (mu)
Print view this post

Re: "Reza Aslan Revealed as Academic Fraud"

#20  Postby CdesignProponentsist » Oct 07, 2015 1:01 am

Spearthrower wrote:
laklak wrote:Some creative writing is interesting.



Aww come on! Genesis is like Disney's Fantasia!


Meh, I prefer J.R.R Tolkien's Silmarillion.
"Things don't need to be true, as long as they are believed" - Alexander Nix, CEO Cambridge Analytica
User avatar
CdesignProponentsist
 
Posts: 12711
Age: 56
Male

Country: California
United States (us)
Print view this post

Next

Return to Nontheism

Who is online

Users viewing this topic: No registered users and 1 guest