Richard Dawkins KPFA Radio event cancelled

felltoearth · **#41** by **felltoearth** » Aug 16, 2017 3:46 am

Ok I clicked the link. It's a report on another article. In the future provide the link to the orginal article please so I don't have to go a crap alt-right website.

felltoearth · **#42** by **felltoearth** » Aug 16, 2017 3:50 am

And why ask Dawkins what he thinks of Iranian theocracy.

Why not ask actual Iranians?

http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/rew ... 27594.html

Wortfish · **#43** by **Wortfish** » Aug 18, 2017 2:18 am

felltoearth wrote:And why ask Dawkins what he thinks of Iranian theocracy.

Why not ask actual Iranians?

http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/rew ... 27594.html

You can't seriously claim that this film provides a representative account of what Iranians think when it only covers the views of supporters of a defeated presidential candidate. Opinion polls suggest that the majorty of Iranians support a religious state.

felltoearth · **#44** by **felltoearth** » Aug 18, 2017 3:04 am

Well, I also know the opinions of my Iranian friends. They love their country but hate the cunts running it.
But you go on believing everyone loves theocratic tyranny.

felltoearth · **#45** by **felltoearth** » Aug 18, 2017 3:05 am

And citation on your poll claim.

proudfootz · **#46** by **proudfootz** » Aug 20, 2017 3:52 pm

NamelessFaceless wrote:Dawkins discusses the issue on Fox News:

It's just too bad Dawkins has allowed himself to become a tool of the rightwing race baiters at FOX News.

Wortfish · **#47** by **Wortfish** » Aug 22, 2017 3:35 pm

felltoearth wrote:And citation on your poll claim.

The latest poll on the Iranian people is available here: http://www.cissm.umd.edu/sites/default/ ... Final2.pdf

An interresing question was posed as to the meaning of the re-election of President Rouhani (whom you claim is a tyrant). According to the findings, Iranians "disagree with the assertion that his re-election means most people disapprove of the ideals of the Islamic Revolution, or that they want religion to play a lesser role in policy making."

Wortfish · **#48** by **Wortfish** » Aug 22, 2017 3:37 pm

felltoearth wrote:Well, I also know the opinions of my Iranian friends. They love their country but hate the cunts running it.
But you go on believing everyone loves theocratic tyranny.

You need to realise that Iranians themselves put the current political system in power by referendum following a popular revolution.

proudfootz · **#49** by **proudfootz** » Aug 22, 2017 4:21 pm

Wortfish wrote:
felltoearth wrote:Well, I also know the opinions of my Iranian friends. They love their country but hate the cunts running it.
But you go on believing everyone loves theocratic tyranny.

You need to realise that Iranians themselves put the current political system in power by referendum following a popular revolution.

What's all this about Iranians having a voice?

The good, kind people who work here have the final say about how anyone anywhere around the globe shall be governed.

Wortfish · **#50** by **Wortfish** » Aug 22, 2017 11:24 pm

proudfootz wrote:
The good, kind people who work here have the final say about how anyone anywhere around the globe shall be governed.

Well, they did help ovethrow the democratic government of Iran in 1953.

proudfootz · **#51** by **proudfootz** » Aug 23, 2017 12:16 am

All in a day's work.

I recall when even people who disagreed with the dictatorship in Iran had to hide their faces even while they were in the USA for fear of what SAVAK* might do to them or their families.

https://books.google.com/books?id=sf_fA ... ad&f=false

* SAVAK:

SAVAK (Sazeman-i Ettelaat va Amniyat-i Keshvar) was the National Organization for Intelligence and Security. Formed under the guidance of United States and Israeli intelligence officers in 1957, SAVAK developed into an effective secret agency.

...

SAVAK increasingly to symbolized the Shah's rule from 1963-79, a period of corruption in the royal family, one-party rule, the torture and execution of thousands of political prisoners, suppression of dissent, and alienation of the religious masses. The United States reinforced its position as the Shah's protector and supporter, sowing the seeds of the anti-Americanism that later manifested itself in the revolution against the monarchy.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/intell/wo ... /savak.htm

Wortfish · **#52** by **Wortfish** » Aug 24, 2017 6:57 pm

proudfootz wrote:All in a day's work.

I recall when even people who disagreed with the dictatorship in Iran had to hide their faces even while they were in the USA for fear of what SAVAK* might do to them or their families.

Was that fear of what SAVAK operatives would do to them inside the USA or to their families inside Iran? It's pretty sad that the US felt the need to support dictatorships just to counterbalance the perceived threat from the Soviet Union.

proudfootz · **#53** by **proudfootz** » Aug 25, 2017 1:39 pm

SAVAK could take it out on the family at home, and could conceivably do something to the protesters here in the US.

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