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The five non-commandments

#1  Postby Paul1 » Aug 03, 2017 2:26 am

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternati ... s#Examples

Different Atheist celebs have come up with their own set of non-commandments. I thought it could be interesting just to distil it into only FIVE non-commandments.

Mine would be:
* Do not do unto others that you would not have done unto yourself.
* Accept and love yourself to the best of your ability.
* Embrace dissent - those who disagree with you.
* Never feel absolutely certain of anything, question everything and demand evidence always.
* It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter how smart you are. If it doesn't agree with evidence, it's wrong.

What would yours be?
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Re: The five non-commandments

#2  Postby zulumoose » Aug 03, 2017 5:45 am

Incorrect use of the word "theory", rather replace it with idea or hypothesis.

In everyday language it is fine, but since this is intended for an audience which has a particular agenda for the misuse of the word, it would be inappropriate to perpetuate that here.
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Re: The five non-commandments

#3  Postby Paul1 » Aug 03, 2017 10:51 am

It's a quote in which I changed one word from experiment to evidence....
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Re: The five non-commandments

#4  Postby zulumoose » Aug 03, 2017 10:57 am

Paul1 wrote:It's a quote in which I changed one word from experiment to evidence....


Context is important. If the quote is from a scientific setting it is correct usage, if you are using the word in a theist/atheist setting, then the context is religious belief and that is exactly where the incorrect usage of the word is a problem, because it reinforces the idea that theory is just an easy word for hypothesis, or idea, and a scientific theory is no more than that.
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Re: The five non-commandments

#5  Postby laklak » Aug 03, 2017 3:20 pm

* If nobody saw you do it then it didn't happen
* Never buy all the fertilizer at the same store
* Disassemble the gun and throw the pieces into multiple rivers
* When transporting cargo make sure all the lights are working and don't drive exactly the speed limit
* Never play poker with a guy called "Doc"
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Re: The five non-commandments

#6  Postby Matthew Shute » Aug 03, 2017 5:04 pm

* Think. Especially before you act.
* Don't be shitty to anyone on purpose. Except if they've earned it and you can afford it.
* Question authority (skepticism should scale with the grandiosity of claims to this/the degree of authoritarianism).
* Beware tribalism, collectivism, identity politics.
* Before approaching life with no sense of irony at all, remember that nobody is getting out of it alive. (Thanks to Cito and whoever said it first.)
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Re: The five non-commandments

#7  Postby purplerat » Aug 03, 2017 6:51 pm

zulumoose wrote:Incorrect use of the word "theory", rather replace it with idea or hypothesis.

In everyday language it is fine, but since this is intended for an audience which has a particular agenda for the misuse of the word, it would be inappropriate to perpetuate that here.

I don't see a problem with 'theory' being used. Actual scientific theories can be proven wrong. If new evidence contradicts an established theory then we shouldn't resist re-examining what we thought was true simply because it's a theory.
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Re: The five non-commandments

#8  Postby zulumoose » Aug 03, 2017 6:58 pm

I think you missed the point there purplerat. Casual use of the word perpetuates the "just a theory" dismissal of science.
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Re: The five non-commandments

#9  Postby purplerat » Aug 03, 2017 7:11 pm

zulumoose wrote:I think you missed the point there purplerat. Casual use of the word perpetuates the "just a theory" dismissal of science.

My point is that it needn't be considered casual use. If anything, understanding Paul1's commandment to mean theory in the strictest scientific sense makes it even more valuable as an ideal. Another way of wording it might be that "no idea, no matter how true we may hold it or how valuable it may be, should ever be beyond reproach."

Aside from that, I'm not going to dance around a word just because some idiots can't be bothered to understand the meaning(s).
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Re: The five non-commandments

#10  Postby CdesignProponentsist » Aug 03, 2017 7:11 pm

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Re: The five non-commandments

#11  Postby purplerat » Aug 03, 2017 7:24 pm

lol, that's exactly what I was thinking of when I clicked on the title.
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Re: The five non-commandments

#12  Postby surreptitious57 » Aug 03, 2017 7:57 pm

Avoid human beings as much as possible
Understand that you know nothing at all
Listen to those who think differently to you
Acceptable responsibility without exception
Understand that existence is just temporary
A MIND IS LIKE A PARACHUTE : IT DOES NOT WORK UNLESS IT IS OPEN
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Re: The five non-commandments

#13  Postby tuco » Aug 03, 2017 9:30 pm

Commandments are something to strive for right? I can predict what I am likely to do rather than to strive for.

Drunk - seek mating.
Craving smokes - not too sick yet.
Cold, yelled at, bossed, or abused - get fired.
Weed around - use all available means and any excuse to get hands on it.
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