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Re: An informal PSI power challenge

#81  Postby DanDare » Dec 14, 2010 4:14 am

Your all wrongs. the moon is in flux and the stars are wrong so its obviously a folding bed of some sort under the bed. And if you say I'm wrong then that just shows that you are hung up on facts instead of understanding that I am correct in a cosmic sense.
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Re: An informal PSI power challenge

#82  Postby ChasM » Dec 14, 2010 4:48 am

Good grief, my psy-warriors tell me (telepathically, of course) that T has a relatively faithful rendition of Charlie Brown's christmas tree, complete with ornament, stuffed under the bed.
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Re: An informal PSI power challenge

#83  Postby tnjrp » Dec 14, 2010 6:50 am

DanDare wrote:Your all wrongs. the moon is in flux and the stars are wrong so its obviously a folding bed of some sort under the bed
Didn't somebody else already suggest a folding bed? :scratch:

Well, I should collate all the (wrong, so far) guesses remote viewing results anyway and if it turns out that was used already I'll allow you to try again. Unless you meant the folding bed is under Weaver's bed in which case you can try mine by default
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Re: An informal PSI power challenge

#84  Postby natselrox » Dec 14, 2010 7:18 am

tnjrp wrote:Ok, a bit of fun for a change but with the chance to show at least one skeptic the real power of the extrasensory perception...

Determine, without actually physically coming to my house, sneaking in and looking (or getting somebody else to do it), what is under my bed.

You may however use any ESP powers including but not limited to clairvoyance and telepathy.

In order to prevent cold reading, the only clue you'll get is that it's fairly sizeable and not trivially obvious, so no points will be awarded for the likes of "small stones", "balls of dog hair" or the like: you have to determine that one specific object.

Also, only one determination per psychic so as not everybody can just go through the dictionary and wait for a hit -- you'll have to do it in concert if that's the way you're gonna play it :tongue:


Let's see what we got here. Male, 45, living in Finland, has a strange website linked to in his profile. Now objects that can be put under the bed have to be within a specific dimensional limit. Beds are usually 7-10" high. Finland is cold so let's go for the upper limit, say 10". Now the object is not more than 10" thick. It's "fairly sizeable" and not "trivially obvious". Books? No. Gadgets? Might be. The author lists himself as systems analyst. An used CPU, GPU, microwave or something like that? Could be. Can it be sports/exercise equipment? System analyst... Interests, as listed in the profile, include Science and science. So unlikely. Avatar has dog, so he possibly has pets in the house. Dogs usually have access to the underside of the bed. So nothing that a dog can spoil. Possibly no clothes or the likes. Furniture? Under the bed? Unlikely.

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Re: An informal PSI power challenge

#85  Postby tnjrp » Dec 14, 2010 7:32 am

"A gadget" is a little too vague... It could mean any number of quite different things. I'm obviously not saying if I'd consider the mystery object a gadget or not tho, but you get a bonus point for trying to cold read me :mrgreen:
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Re: An informal PSI power challenge

#86  Postby ChasM » Dec 14, 2010 11:57 am

A widget?
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Re: An informal PSI power challenge

#87  Postby Weaver » Dec 14, 2010 12:16 pm

ChasM wrote:A widget?

Nope, not a widget, nor a gizmo, a doohickie, a whatchamacallit, or a whoziewhatzie.

Nice try, though.
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Re: An informal PSI power challenge

#88  Postby NilsGLindgren » Dec 14, 2010 12:55 pm

... I then tried the I Ching to find out why it was NOT a tiger under the bed.
I Ching wrote:
(Hexagram 60 Limitations, first line moving)
Waters difficult to keep within the Lake's banks:
The Superior Person examines the nature of virtue and makes himself a standard that can be followed.

Self-discipline brings success; but restraints too binding bring self-defeat.

Ah, nice. The reason there is no tiger under tnjp's bed is that he, being a virtuous person, has let it get away. Also, he is too virtuous for his own good - he needs more beer.
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Re: An informal PSI power challenge

#89  Postby tnjrp » Dec 14, 2010 1:14 pm

I'm pretty sure you're correct on that account. I definitely need more beer.
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Re: An informal PSI power challenge

#90  Postby Weaver » Dec 14, 2010 1:46 pm

NilsGLindgren wrote:... I then tried the I Ching to find out why it was NOT a tiger under the bed.
I Ching wrote:
(Hexagram 60 Limitations, first line moving)
Waters difficult to keep within the Lake's banks:
The Superior Person examines the nature of virtue and makes himself a standard that can be followed.

Self-discipline brings success; but restraints too binding bring self-defeat.

Ah, nice. The reason there is no tiger under tnjp's bed is that he, being a virtuous person, has let it get away. Also, he is too virtuous for his own good - he needs more beer.

Re-examine the portions I emphasized above ...

The I Ching is clearly talking about the outflow between Lake Superior and Lake Huron ...
http://www.worldatlas.com/webimage/coun ... reatlk.htm

While not as tumultuous as the cascade between Lake Erie and Lake Ontario, the St Mary's River is an interesting feature of it's own right.

Pretty sure it's not under either of our beds, though the concept of that much water flow may be why I have to get up in the middle the night to pee.
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Re: An informal PSI power challenge

#91  Postby NilsGLindgren » Dec 14, 2010 3:05 pm

Nononono. The first part is about keeping something caught up, and the impossibility thereof; the second is in this case tnjp. Or me. Or somebody else. But must likely tnjp as it is the lack of a tiger under his bed we are interviewing the ancient oracle about. So he is the SUperior Person. Of course, another possibility is that the SUperior Person is, in fact, the tiger (the lacking tiger, that is).(Or really, if the tiger is lacking, as a person, it cannot be Superior, can it? So perhaps tnjp should look under his bed once more? He might be in for a surprise ...)

Whatever, I see here good and solid grounds for having more beer. This is what consulting I Ching does to a person.
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Re: An informal PSI power challenge

#92  Postby NilsGLindgren » Dec 14, 2010 3:13 pm

SO, I did ask the I Ching if one should drink more beer. As an answer, I got
I Ching wrote:
Hexagram 60 (Limitations)
4th line moving
Cultivating the proper disciplines and the proper degree of discipline are the concerns of this hexagram.
By limiting options, you may give more attention to priorities.
One who is all over the map is no less lost than one without a map.
Avoid asceticism, however.
Deprivation is not wise discipline.
The key here is regulation, not restriction.

So, avoid asceticism, and deprivation is not wise discipline.

Couldn't be much clearer than that.

I'm off to the pub, you want to tag along?
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Re: An informal PSI power challenge

#93  Postby tnjrp » Dec 15, 2010 7:10 am

I for one am totally convinced! :pray:

Maybe I should try some Chinese medicine for my flu/cold too... :think:
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Re: An informal PSI power challenge

#94  Postby twistor59 » Dec 15, 2010 10:12 am

Talking of pron:

does anybody else mourn the loss of the traditional

"pron-stash-under-the-bed-that-you-were-incredibly-naive-to-think-your-mum-didn't-know-about" ?

It's all stashed away in a little usb stick that you keep in your drawer these days. Not the same at all. But your mum still knows about it !
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Re: An informal PSI power challenge

#95  Postby tnjrp » Dec 15, 2010 10:41 am

Indeed she does (must be some kind of ESP power too, or maybe masturbation does really cause pimples :ask:) and in most cases mums can already use the computer quite well enough to put the stick in the USB port and look what steamy stuff you have on it too.

Not my mum obviously, she has to resort to haunting me if she thinks I've been a naughty boy.
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Re: An informal PSI power challenge

#96  Postby Weaver » Dec 15, 2010 11:02 am

tnjrp wrote:Indeed she does (must be some kind of ESP power too, or maybe masturbation does really cause pimples :ask:)

Nah, not pimples - but it does cause blindness. That's why so many of us started having to wear glasses - and our mom's weren't upset about the cost, but about our obvious moral gap.

Of course, there are solutions. I got PRK laser eye surgery in '04, so I figure I'm good for another 30 years of masturbation.

I loved the look on my Mom's face when I told her that one, BTW ... :lol:
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Re: An informal PSI power challenge

#97  Postby NilsGLindgren » Dec 15, 2010 11:26 am

... so I asked the I Ching if today would be a good day to go to the pub, regardless of what nameless horrors lurks under tnjp's bed.
Here's what it said:
OPPRESSION. Success. Perseverance.
The great man brings about good fortune.
No blame.
When one has something to say,
It is not believed.

OK, so I have been persevering about beer being a great ameliorater in the struggle to find pattern and meaning in existence. And obviously, I'm not to blame, right?
Unfortunately, apparently, you are not going to believe me when I say that it is a good day to go to the pub.
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Re: An informal PSI power challenge

#98  Postby tnjrp » Dec 20, 2010 8:40 am

Ok, no right guesses clairvoyant (or other ESP) detections so far and a week to go so it's a time for the recap of what "sizeable objects" (or things reasonably close to being objects, or featuring at least one object + other stuff) have been suggested:
  • A 10 speed racing bike
  • A ball
  • A Bible
  • A big building normally assumed to be located at 30 St Mary Axe (London, England) or alternatively a fruit
  • A chamber pot
  • A dead child (possibly abducted from a Mediterranean country)
  • A folding/z-bed
  • A guitar
  • A gun
  • A KKK uniform
  • A life size replica of James Randi holding check for a million dollar
  • A long bow
  • A Moomintroll doll with one leg missing
  • A motorcycle helmet
  • An astrolabe
  • A new kind of parasitic worm irremovably attached to a gold Buddha statue
  • An inflatable duck
  • A stack of porn
  • A STIGA table hockey game
  • A suitcase
  • A telescope
  • A used CPU, GPU or microwave
  • Charlie Brown's christmas tree, complete with ornament
  • My dead mother wrapped in clingfilm
  • The bagged corpses of my victims
  • Twenty boxes of Kleenex

The following are not even wrong since they are not objects in the literal sense (unless of course a toy or stuffed versio thereof was implied):
  • A crocodile
  • A tiger
  • A Welsh Corgi Cardigan dog

The following are impossible to verify because doing so either would require having been present to check at the right time or it would require ESP (which I don't posses) to ascertain:
  • A fold-away exercise machine existing in another happentrack of the Tegmark Level III multiverse
  • A monster (possibly a robot monster)
  • A portal to another dimension
  • A very big knife in the hand of a hockey-masked murderer

Also disallowed calling "gadget" as it's too vague.

Let me know if I've missed something and keep using them powers! Somebody must have 'em, surely! I want to believe... :levi:
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Re: An informal PSI power challenge

#99  Postby ChasM » Dec 21, 2010 12:08 pm

That's it. I'm firing my "team," who are either complete psi idiots, believing they possess supernatural powers that just aren't there, or devious charlatans, cynically preying upon my credulity. Either way I don't suppose that I'll ever get my "donations" back from them. :whine:
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Re: An informal PSI power challenge

#100  Postby NilsGLindgren » Dec 21, 2010 1:44 pm

SHould I try to get into tnjp's question about the object under his bed? I asked the I Ching and got as answer hexagram 43 Breakthrough, however, with first line changing, giving the answer:
"Though you feel confident, you are not equal to the overwhelming odds you face.
One step forward will set you back a mile."
So, I'm outta here. What will come of this? Hexagram 28 Critical mass (is what you get when the first line changes):
"This is no time for fatal heroics.
You are at Ground Point Zero.
Remove yourself from this situation without delay.
Find sanctuary."

Think this means I'm off to the pub.
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