Can personal experience be evidence of the paranormal?

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Re: Can personal experience be evidence of the paranormal?

#1921  Postby kyrani99 » Jun 26, 2016 2:14 pm

Doubtdispelled wrote:BTW, just what the heck is this all about?

kyrani99 wrote:I know the scientific view is that we are all robots


Where did that come from?

:eh:


The medical paradigm is that the body (which includes the brain and hence their definition of mind) is a machine, i.e., a robot.
It has negative implications for medicine and the treatment of disease, even what disease is.
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Re: Can personal experience be evidence of the paranormal?

#1922  Postby Shrunk » Jun 26, 2016 2:26 pm

kyrani99 wrote:
Doubtdispelled wrote:BTW, just what the heck is this all about?

kyrani99 wrote:I know the scientific view is that we are all robots


Where did that come from?

:eh:


The medical paradigm is that the body (which includes the brain and hence their definition of mind) is a machine, i.e., a robot.
It has negative implications for medicine and the treatment of disease, even what disease is.
http://ibmi.mf.uni-lj.si/rehabilitacija ... 05-007.pdf


Ah, so it came from something some guy wrote on the internet. Therefore, again, a claim that can be dismissed out of hand as completely without support.
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Re: Can personal experience be evidence of the paranormal?

#1923  Postby DarthHelmet86 » Jun 26, 2016 2:29 pm

What a lovely bit of word salad that post is with no evidence or proof in it at all.
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Re: Can personal experience be evidence of the paranormal?

#1924  Postby Doubtdispelled » Jun 26, 2016 3:11 pm

kyrani99 wrote:
Doubtdispelled wrote:BTW, just what the heck is this all about?

kyrani99 wrote:I know the scientific view is that we are all robots


Where did that come from?

:eh:


The medical paradigm is that the body (which includes the brain and hence their definition of mind) is a machine, i.e., a robot.
It has negative implications for medicine and the treatment of disease, even what disease is.
http://ibmi.mf.uni-lj.si/rehabilitacija ... 05-007.pdf


But you said 'the scientific view is that.....'. You didn't say it was just one man saying it. And even then that abstract doesn't even say what you seem to be implying it does, never mind whether the writer agrees with the proposal or not. A machine is not necessarily a robot.

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Re: Can personal experience be evidence of the paranormal?

#1925  Postby Agrippina » Jun 26, 2016 3:17 pm

I'm waiting too DD, this should be exciting. :shock:
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Re: Can personal experience be evidence of the paranormal?

#1926  Postby Doubtdispelled » Jun 26, 2016 5:40 pm

Agrippina wrote:I'm waiting too DD, this should be exciting. :shock:


Any minute now, Aggie, results will be forthcoming. :)
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Re: Can personal experience be evidence of the paranormal?

#1927  Postby Arnold Layne » Jun 26, 2016 7:15 pm

Doubtdispelled wrote:
Agrippina wrote:I'm waiting too DD, this should be exciting. :shock:


Any minute now, Aggie, results will be forthcoming. :)

I bet Ape is still waiting for those medical records, too! :grin:
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Re: Can personal experience be evidence of the paranormal?

#1928  Postby Doubtdispelled » Jun 26, 2016 7:29 pm

Arnold Layne wrote:
Doubtdispelled wrote:
Agrippina wrote:I'm waiting too DD, this should be exciting. :shock:


Any minute now, Aggie, results will be forthcoming. :)

I bet Ape is still waiting for those medical records, too! :grin:


Ah, so....

Image

is a virtue. Or it would be if I could get the accent right.

On the other hand...

Image
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Re: Can personal experience be evidence of the paranormal?

#1929  Postby BlackBart » Jun 26, 2016 7:32 pm

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Re: Can personal experience be evidence of the paranormal?

#1930  Postby Doubtdispelled » Jun 26, 2016 7:35 pm

BlackBart wrote:Image

:shock:

Where on earth did you get that picture of me just waiting for my internet connection to work?

This is so uncanny I think I might have a paranormal belief moment!!!!
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Re: Can personal experience be evidence of the paranormal?

#1931  Postby tolman » Jun 26, 2016 7:36 pm

Arnold Layne wrote:
Doubtdispelled wrote:
Agrippina wrote:I'm waiting too DD, this should be exciting. :shock:


Any minute now, Aggie, results will be forthcoming. :)

I bet Ape is still waiting for those medical records, too! :grin:

What about records of the Quantum Car Accident, which Kyrani both did and didn't see happening in front of her?
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Re: Can personal experience be evidence of the paranormal?

#1932  Postby BlackBart » Jun 26, 2016 7:40 pm

Doubtdispelled wrote:
BlackBart wrote:Image

:shock:

Where on earth did you get that picture of me just waiting for my internet connection to work?

This is so uncanny I think I might have a paranormal belief moment!!!!

Www.dd-cam.com :shifty:
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Re: Can personal experience be evidence of the paranormal?

#1933  Postby Doubtdispelled » Jun 26, 2016 7:47 pm

BlackBart wrote:
Doubtdispelled wrote:
BlackBart wrote:Image

:shock:

Where on earth did you get that picture of me just waiting for my internet connection to work?

This is so uncanny I think I might have a paranormal belief moment!!!!

http://Www.dd-cam.com :shifty:


:o

Wait - that led to a particular isp which I may or may not know about...

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Re: Can personal experience be evidence of the paranormal?

#1934  Postby BlackBart » Jun 26, 2016 7:50 pm

Of course...you have Hobgoblin on tap! :grin:
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Re: Can personal experience be evidence of the paranormal?

#1935  Postby Doubtdispelled » Jun 26, 2016 7:54 pm

BlackBart wrote:Of course...you have Hobgoblin on tap! :grin:


Ah, the goblin. It binds them in. Aheheheheheheee....
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Re: Can personal experience be evidence of the paranormal?

#1936  Postby Shrunk » Jun 26, 2016 8:25 pm

Arnold Layne wrote:
Doubtdispelled wrote:
Agrippina wrote:I'm waiting too DD, this should be exciting. :shock:


Any minute now, Aggie, results will be forthcoming. :)

I bet Ape is still waiting for those medical records, too! :grin:


kyrani99 has already confirmed that she refuses to divulge those records. I can't blame her. It's hard to release something that does not exist.
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Re: Can personal experience be evidence of the paranormal?

#1937  Postby Agrippina » Jun 27, 2016 5:35 am

tolman wrote:
Arnold Layne wrote:
Doubtdispelled wrote:
Agrippina wrote:I'm waiting too DD, this should be exciting. :shock:


Any minute now, Aggie, results will be forthcoming. :)

I bet Ape is still waiting for those medical records, too! :grin:

What about records of the Quantum Car Accident, which Kyrani both did and didn't see happening in front of her?


Schrodinger's car accident? :ask:
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Re: Can personal experience be evidence of the paranormal?

#1938  Postby BlackBart » Jun 27, 2016 5:49 am

Agrippina wrote:
tolman wrote:
Arnold Layne wrote:
Doubtdispelled wrote:

Any minute now, Aggie, results will be forthcoming. :)

I bet Ape is still waiting for those medical records, too! :grin:

What about records of the Quantum Car Accident, which Kyrani both did and didn't see happening in front of her?


Schrodinger's car accident? :ask:


He was hit by Heisenberg's car. (We don't know how fast it was going but we know exactly where it was)
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Re: Can personal experience be evidence of the paranormal?

#1939  Postby Agrippina » Jun 27, 2016 5:54 am

BlackBart wrote:
Agrippina wrote:
tolman wrote:
Arnold Layne wrote:
I bet Ape is still waiting for those medical records, too! :grin:

What about records of the Quantum Car Accident, which Kyrani both did and didn't see happening in front of her?


Schrodinger's car accident? :ask:


He was hit by Heisenberg's car. (We don't know how fast it was going but we know exactly where it was)


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Re: Can personal experience be evidence of the paranormal?

#1940  Postby Fallible » Jun 27, 2016 9:33 am

No, no. Among competing hypotheses, and if one eliminates superfluous entities such as witnesses, corroboration through news reports and the like, a verifiable time scale and a coherent and consistent narrative, the kyraniest explanation should be selected.
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