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#1  Postby Transilvanian » Nov 04, 2016 5:14 pm

When I am reading about ESP on online science magazines, :coffee: I often see that many ESP researches, when replicated, have produced negative results(chance results). Sadly I couldn`t find any of them on the internet... :think:
Yesterday I was arguing about this topic with a friend who said that there are experiments like Ganzfeld wich have produced positive results. Then I said that they are a lot of them with chance results... but I can`t show him an of them... Can you guys help me with this? :pray: Thanks a lot!!
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Re: ESP research replication failures

#2  Postby SafeAsMilk » Nov 04, 2016 5:25 pm

There are no consistent, independent replication of Ganzfeld results. Looking into attempts to verify Ganzfeld's experiment will give your friend what he's asking you for.
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Re: ESP research replication failures

#3  Postby BlackBart » Nov 04, 2016 6:50 pm

Can anyone provide me with evidence with the non-existence of Unicorns, so I can totally ignore any responses, disappear for months and then reappear and ask the same inane question about Kobolds? Thanks a LOT!! :thumbup:
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Re: ESP research replication failures

#4  Postby Transilvanian » Nov 04, 2016 8:24 pm

BlackBart wrote:Can anyone provide me with evidence with the non-existence of Unicorns, so I can totally ignore any responses, disappear for months and then reappear and ask the same inane question about Kobolds? Thanks a LOT!! :thumbup:

Look, I just whant to see where are those negative results, skeptics write about. There is a difference between unconvincing positive evidence and a combination of unconvincing positive evidence+null results. Thank you SafeAsMilk for you reply. I hope I will get some others too :whistle:
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#5  Postby SafeAsMilk » Nov 04, 2016 8:59 pm

Looking at your previous posts, you've already looked into Ganzfeld. If you've read even the wikipedia article on the topic, you'd see why his results are problematic and haven't been properly reproduced. Your OP is disingenuous.
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Re: ESP research replication failures

#6  Postby Shrunk » Nov 04, 2016 9:03 pm

We had a pretty thorough discussion of the Ganzfeld experiments in a previous thread:

http://www.rationalskepticism.org/paran ... t4644.html
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#7  Postby The_Metatron » Nov 04, 2016 9:38 pm

The question to ask is: Where are the successful ESP experiments?
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Re: ESP research replication failures

#8  Postby scott1328 » Nov 04, 2016 11:01 pm

The_Metatron wrote:The question to ask is: Where are the successful ESP experiments?

I knew you'd ask that.
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#9  Postby SafeAsMilk » Nov 05, 2016 5:57 am

It's like deja vu all over again!
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Re: ESP research replication failures

#10  Postby Scot Dutchy » Nov 05, 2016 10:09 am

That's ESP for you. :lol:
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Re: ESP research replication failures

#11  Postby Blackadder » Nov 05, 2016 2:26 pm

"Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
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Re: ESP research replication failures

#12  Postby The_Metatron » Nov 05, 2016 3:06 pm

Blackadder wrote:"Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
George Sanatayana

Didn't that guy attack the Alamo?


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Re: ESP research replication failures

#13  Postby laklak » Nov 05, 2016 3:16 pm

I thought he was a Latino guitarist.
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Re: ESP research replication failures

#14  Postby Fallible » Nov 05, 2016 11:33 pm

Ah, yes. Good old Carlos Sanatayana.
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Re: ESP research replication failures

#15  Postby Blackadder » Nov 05, 2016 11:49 pm

Santayana? Sanatayana? Look, I had five "a"s and I decided to use them all. That's all I'm saying.
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Re: ESP research replication failures

#16  Postby Fallible » Nov 05, 2016 11:50 pm

Well, and why not?
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Re: ESP research replication failures

#17  Postby igorfrankensteen » Nov 06, 2016 1:32 am

Blackadder wrote:"Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
George Sanatayana


What a foolish bit of nonsense that statement was. It's one of my growing collection of excruciatingly unwise, wise sayings.
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