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Afterlife, that is the continued existence of consciousness/mind/spirit/soul/whatyawannacallit separate from physcial medium, and God (especially the Xtian one if that's what you mean) aren't necessarily requisite of one another tho.inkaStepa wrote:I've been wondering about the afterlife and God in general
If we got compelling evidence (compelling to others than Jerome, that is -- cheers old chap!I suppose if ghosts can be proven to exist, then this would be proof of an afterlife of some sorts
Such anecdotes are unfortunately exceedingly difficult to explain in any way post hoc.I've been told a story about a ghost by family members where a boy was crying for his mom for weeks and one night, they heard a woman crying in a nearby room but no one was there (and their house was a farm house with no one around for miles).
Various apparently brain-produced sound phenomena are fairly common. Apparent sound of crying is in fact, I think, fairly typical of such.I can understand visual phenomenon explained by the brain's activity and what not, but what about sound or namely, someone crying?
Well, the things he observes are kinda-sorta real as he is experiencing them (discounting the option that he's just, well, lying...). Only it may well be they aren't intersubjectively real , never mind objectively so. That is to say, they may well not have an independent existence outside of his experience one likes to think, say, he personally has outside of yours or mine. They could be for example some sort of misinterpretations as per pareidolia linked to above.Also, this friend I have has been telling me that he can see "shadow people" and see "angels" in the form of sillohettes. He seems like an otherwise perfectly normal 22 year old, and though I coaxed him to see a specialist he won't budge insisting it's real and he knows it's real
This, I can't help you with. Sure I could dig something up on the 'net but I hesitate to lay down lists of symptoms that may or may not apply.I was wondering. what kind of mental illness could this be associated with where the person only sees these types of things?
jerome wrote:Hey inkaStepa! The debate here may interest you -- formal-debates/formal-debate-existence-of-ghosts-apparitions-t6927.html
I'll have a hack at replying properly tomorrow.
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inkaStepa wrote:I can understand visual phenomenon explained by the brain's activity and what not, but what about sound or namely, someone crying?
Also, this friend I have has been telling me that he can see "shadow people" and see "angels" in the form of sillohettes. He seems like an otherwise perfectly normal 22 year old, and though I coaxed him to see a specialist he won't budge insisting it's real and he knows it's real. I was wondering. what kind of mental illness could this be associated with where the person only sees these types of things? Thanks!
inkaStepa wrote: I've been told a story about a ghost by family members where a boy was crying for his mom for weeks and one night, they heard a woman crying in a nearby room but no one was there (and their house was a farm house with no one around for miles).
inkaStepa wrote:I've been wondering about the afterlife and God in general and I suppose if ghosts can be proven to exist, then this would be proof of an afterlife of some sorts. I've been told a story about a ghost by family members where a boy was crying for his mom for weeks and one night, they heard a woman crying in a nearby room but no one was there (and their house was a farm house with no one around for miles).
I can understand visual phenomenon explained by the brain's activity and what not, but what about sound or namely, someone crying?
Also, this friend I have has been telling me that he can see "shadow people" and see "angels" in the form of sillohettes. He seems like an otherwise perfectly normal 22 year old, and though I coaxed him to see a specialist he won't budge insisting it's real and he knows it's real. I was wondering. what kind of mental illness could this be associated with where the person only sees these types of things? Thanks!
Scarlett and Ironclad wrote:Campermon,...a middle aged, middle class, Guardian reading, dad of four, knackered hippy, woolly jumper wearing wino and science teacher.
Maybe it was "living" in the electric wires and got a nasty jolt every time you turned on the lightsjerome wrote:Why are spooks photosensitive? Why did it cut out the moment the light was turned on?
inkaStepa wrote: everyone in the house heard it but like I said, they couldn't find the "woman."
It still scares me!!
jerome wrote: Why are spooks photosensitive? Why did it cut out the moment the light was turned on?
inkaStepa wrote:I've been wondering about the afterlife and God in general and I suppose if ghosts can be proven to exist, then this would be proof of an afterlife of some sorts.
inkaStepa wrote:Well, if ghosts do exist: they are techinically dead so their existence would be that of an after-life wouldnt it?
Some ghosts or apparitions are not immediately obviously tied to a specific dead person tho.inkaStepa wrote:Well, if ghosts do exist: they are techinically dead so their existence would be that of an after-life wouldnt it?
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