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#1  Postby Transilvanian » Apr 14, 2013 7:57 pm

Hy guys!

James Randi said about remote viewing:
remote viewing: This phenomenon first became a celebrated subject after parapsychologists Harold Puthoff and Russell Targ published a scientific paper which reported on experiments in which a remote location had been chosen, an experimenter visited there, and a subject recorded his or her psychic impressions of the spot. Their results seemed to prove that a “remote sensing” faculty did exist.
Subsequently, properly controlled tests were done by several other researchers, eliminating several sources of cuing and extraneous evidence that had been present in the tests. These new tests produced negative results. The data of Puthoff and Targ were reexamined by the other researchers, and it was found that their students were able to solve the locations without use of any psychic powers, using only the clues that had inadvertently been included in the Puthoff and Targ transcripts.


But where are these negative results? I do not find them on the internet. Can anybody post some of theme here? As many as possible, because I am really shocked... :P This is the only field of the "psy", where I don`t find the "several" negative results. Thank you for this!
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Re: Remote viewing

#2  Postby campermon » Apr 14, 2013 8:01 pm

Transilvanian wrote:Hy guys!

But where are these negative results?


I sense that you are somewhere in South America.

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Re: Remote viewing

#3  Postby Transilvanian » Apr 14, 2013 8:03 pm

?

And Happy Birthday! :)
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#4  Postby BlackBart » Apr 14, 2013 8:04 pm

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Transilvanian wrote:Hy guys!

But where are these negative results?


I sense that you are somewhere in South America.

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#5  Postby campermon » Apr 14, 2013 8:04 pm

Transilvanian wrote:?

And Happy Birthday! :)


:cheers:

That's a published negative result! :mrgreen:

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#6  Postby Transilvanian » Apr 14, 2013 8:06 pm

Oh... :))

Now really, can you post some of them? :P
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#7  Postby campermon » Apr 14, 2013 8:09 pm

Transilvanian wrote:Oh... :))

Now really, can you post some of them? :P


I don't know where you'd find them. It was all pretty hush hush research from what i know.
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Re: Remote viewing

#8  Postby Transilvanian » Apr 14, 2013 8:34 pm

But personaly I hope, that somebody knows something about them... :D
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#9  Postby LucidFlight » Apr 14, 2013 8:35 pm

If only we could remote view them somehow. :think:
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Re: Remote viewing

#10  Postby campermon » Apr 14, 2013 8:37 pm

LucidFlight wrote:If only we could remote view them somehow. :think:


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Skype?
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Re: Remote viewing

#11  Postby Varangian » Apr 15, 2013 7:23 pm

Viewing without the remote can be tricky, but it is usually found under some cushion in the sofa.
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Re: Remote viewing

#12  Postby Transilvanian » Apr 16, 2013 12:56 pm

Ok guys, you do not help me with this... :P I know that this sh*t sounds stupid, and I am not a believer, but I am really interested if any skeptic tested these people, and what have they found?
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#13  Postby Varangian » Apr 16, 2013 5:09 pm

I had contact with a RV, and some parts of his viewings were rather accurate. To his credit, he thought they weren't accurate enough (or eliminating chance).
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Re: Remote viewing

#14  Postby VK-machine » Apr 16, 2013 5:28 pm

The OP says it all, really. The psychological effect behind remote viewing is called illusory correlation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusory_correlation
The romanian wiki will have something, too, I'd expect.

The remote viewers in the stargate project went to sell books and teach remote viewing. What they are really teaching is how to fool yourself. They did not actually go on to find oil or minerals, criminals or missing persons.

The movie The Men Who Stare at Goats with George Clooney and others was based around some events connected to that project. It's based on a documentary by Jon Ronson.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Men_Who_Stare_at_Goats
Here on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raondFnEkqU
It features an interview with the Major General who tried to walk through walls (*bump*) about 4 minutes in.
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Re: Remote viewing

#15  Postby Transilvanian » Apr 16, 2013 7:49 pm

Varangian:How accurate was he?
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#16  Postby Varangian » Apr 16, 2013 9:04 pm

Not very. We tried three photos, which he described with impressions of sounds and shapes, as well as the odd name. I could make them fit the photos (or the story behind them), but when he learned what the photos really showed, he was honest and told me that there wasn't much that matched. I guess it is a bit like a horoscope - there's a risk that the one reading it tries to make it fit reality: illusory correlation.
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#17  Postby Transilvanian » Apr 17, 2013 12:59 pm

On the basis of what he said about the pictures, could you choose correctly, which descriptionbelongs to the pictures?
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#18  Postby Varangian » Apr 17, 2013 10:05 pm

It was done one picture at a time, not all three in one go.
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#19  Postby Transilvanian » Apr 18, 2013 12:53 pm

But could you recognize the picture by the description if it would be between other, totally different pictures?
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#20  Postby Varangian » Apr 18, 2013 9:03 pm

Say that there were five pictures, and one of those is the one described by the RV, I would probably not be able to pick the right picture based on the description.
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