Ok, that is what is important!

Do you know debunked remote viewers?

Do you know any proven remote viewers?

Transilvanian wrote:Do you know debunked remote viewers?

Pointless question. I could claim that could run the 100 metres in under 10 seconds. When I failed miserably you couldn't infer that doing it was or was not possible.

If remote viewing works then the NSA has wasted one fuck of a lot of money on PRISM.

It only works when you're not looking…



SWIDT?

laklak wrote:If remote viewing works then the NSA has wasted one fuck of a lot of money on PRISM.

[Remote viewing]I can see you drinking a beer[/Remote viewing]

I was under the impression there are several standing challenges by Randi, Penn and Teller, and other illusionists with regards to remote viewing. Chris Angel got really heated with Uri Gellar and challenged him to read the letter in his jacket on live TV. That was fun. So far, not one psychic has beaten any challenge out there. Going through the psychic websites to see what their thoughts were revealed that these illusionists (Randi, Pen & Teller, et al) themselves were powerful psychics using their powers to block any remote viewing attempt in a ploy to discredit any psychic ability and cash in on it for themselves... ya...

"According to James Randi, controlled tests by several other researchers, eliminating several sources of cuing and extraneous evidence present in the original tests, produced negative results. "

Can anybody give me a list of them?

Never underestimate the power of wishful thinking. It can cause threads to never die.

Transilvanian wrote:"According to James Randi, controlled tests by several other researchers, eliminating several sources of cuing and extraneous evidence present in the original tests, produced negative results. "

Can anybody give me a list of them?

Why not ask Randi?

Goldenmane wrote:

Transilvanian wrote:"According to James Randi, controlled tests by several other researchers, eliminating several sources of cuing and extraneous evidence present in the original tests, produced negative results. "

Can anybody give me a list of them?

Why not ask Randi?

I think the premise is, if we cant provide a list, then remote viewing is valid and real. Asking Randi or doing the research himself would defeat the purpose.

CdesignProponentsist wrote:

Goldenmane wrote:

Transilvanian wrote:"According to James Randi, controlled tests by several other researchers, eliminating several sources of cuing and extraneous evidence present in the original tests, produced negative results. "

Can anybody give me a list of them?

Why not ask Randi?

I think the premise is, if we cant provide a list, then remote viewing is valid and real. Asking Randi or doing the research himself would defeat the purpose.

In that case can anyone provide a list of all the times I've failed to win the lottery?

Is that true that the results of the researches conducted by SAIC and SRI (including the Stargate project) were judged by a jury and it was not used a blinded mothod like in the Ganzfeld??

Anobody knows something about the SRI and SAIC experiments, and their results? I can`t find anithing about them. And the Stargate project results?

Transilvanian wrote:Do you know debunked remote viewers?

Every one that has ever been tested.

Were the NRC's findings on remote viewing and StarGate project “predominantly negative”?
http://www.lfr.org/lfr/csl/library/airreport.pdf

Although the findings of the National Research Council (NRC) were predominantly negative with regard to a range of paranormal phenomena, work on remote viewing has continued under the auspices of various government programs.

and

The NRC provided a thorough review of the unclassified remote viewing research through 1986. In this review (summarized in Swets & Bjork, 1990), the nature of the research methods led the reviewers to question whether there was indeed any effect that could clearly be attributed to the operation of paranormal phenomena.

Is this statement, about the findings of the NRC, true? Where are their findings reported?

Please don't simply answer, "Yes we have reliable witnesses who report that their findings were negative": because I want to know/evaluate/understand for myself some of the details of their findings.

What was concretely critised? Weren`t the findings significant, positive?

Transilvanian wrote:
Please don't simply answer, "Yes we have reliable witnesses who report that their findings were negative": because I want to know/evaluate/understand for myself some of the details of their findings.

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laklak wrote:If remote viewing works then the NSA has wasted one fuck of a lot of money on PRISM.

And the UK on security cameras.

Hy guys! I`m back!
Do you know some tests made by skeptics where the famous RVers have failed? Joe McMoneagle, Ingo Swann, etc.?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remote_vie ... rticipants

Is that really true, that Joe McMoneagle claimed that "humans came from creatures somewhat like sea otters rather than primates and were created in a laboratory by creators who "seeded" the earth and then departed"? Is this really true? Can you say other stupid things said by them?