UK: Belief in ghosts is rising

Spearthrower · **#281** by **Spearthrower** » Jan 04, 2020 3:54 am

ORZIL wrote:Are rationalist evidences valid?

You're supposed to be arguing for the existence of ghosts.

It's expository how little that has become your focus - you appear to think that first you should attempt to tear down every edifice of knowledge then there might be room for your claim.

This is a characteristic of all peddlers of woo.

Fallible · **#282** by **Fallible** » Jan 04, 2020 10:30 am

ORZIL wrote:Are rationalist evidences valid?

No.

newolder · **#283** by **newolder** » Jan 04, 2020 10:40 am

Fallible wrote:
ORZIL wrote:Are rationalist evidences valid?

No.

Oh good, that means I can post this Harry Hill/Derek Acorah tube:

BlackBart · **#284** by **BlackBart** » Jan 04, 2020 10:50 am

Poor old Derek has just dropped off the twig. Didn't see that coming.

newolder · **#285** by **newolder** » Jan 04, 2020 10:57 am

The Rochdale Herald
@RochdaleHerald
Derek Acorah to be guest speaker at his own funeral next week

Fallible · **#286** by **Fallible** » Jan 04, 2020 12:00 pm

BlackBart · **#287** by **BlackBart** » Jan 05, 2020 5:39 pm

ORZIL wrote:Is this forum allowed to cite links from Wikipedia?

Here's an idea. Try reading the Forum User Agreement. That way you'll be able to work it out for yourself and avoid looking like a pudgy faced eight year old asking his Mum annoying questions every thirty seconds.

ORZIL · **#288** by **ORZIL** » Jan 06, 2020 6:34 pm

I am not a researcher and I have no empirical evidence. maybe in the future!

Fallible · **#289** by **Fallible** » Jan 06, 2020 7:05 pm

Sure.

BlackBart · **#290** by **BlackBart** » Jan 06, 2020 7:42 pm

ORZIL wrote:I am not a researcher and I have no empirical evidence.

Obviously and obviously.

maybe in the future!

Spearthrower · **#291** by **Spearthrower** » Jan 06, 2020 11:38 pm

ORZIL wrote:I am not a researcher and I have no empirical evidence. maybe in the future!

See you in the notional future then.

ORZIL · **#292** by **ORZIL** » Jan 07, 2020 8:16 pm

Spearthrower wrote:
ORZIL wrote:I am not a researcher and I have no empirical evidence. maybe in the future!

See you in the notional future then.

I don't know if there are spirits or not, but maybe one day, if there is empirical evidence, we can find out something. :thumbup:

BlackBart · **#293** by **BlackBart** » Jan 07, 2020 8:20 pm

The same statement would be true for Pink Unicorns, Fairies, Spiny Norman or the other eleventy billion things for which there is no evidence, so it's pretty much worthless.

Fallible · **#294** by **Fallible** » Jan 07, 2020 8:24 pm

ORZIL wrote:
Spearthrower wrote:
ORZIL wrote:I am not a researcher and I have no empirical evidence. maybe in the future!

See you in the notional future then.

I don't know if there are spirits or not, but maybe one day, if there is empirical evidence, we can find out something.

And yet a few months ago...

ORZIL wrote:Spirits are the souls of the dead.

Spearthrower · **#295** by **Spearthrower** » Jan 08, 2020 3:31 am

ORZIL wrote:
Spearthrower wrote:
ORZIL wrote:I am not a researcher and I have no empirical evidence. maybe in the future!

See you in the notional future then.

I don't know if there are spirits or not, but maybe one day, if there is empirical evidence, we can find out something.

So what you're saying is that there's no good reason to believe in ghosts now.

ORZIL · **#296** by **ORZIL** » Feb 03, 2020 2:04 pm

activate english subtitles ok

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kg_BybNufwo

Cito di Pense · **#297** by **Cito di Pense** » Feb 03, 2020 2:10 pm

ORZIL wrote:activate english subtitles ok

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kg_BybNufwo

The 'subject' says "it really is outside the scope of my language". How are the subtitles supposed to help us? Do you think the subtitles translate something outside her capacity to describe? If you do, you're an idiot.

I'm just not inclined to listen to somebody try to describe in words something they admit they can't put into words.

Besides that, even at face value, it's nothing but an anecdote, and of course you know that is not data.

newolder · **#298** by **newolder** » Feb 03, 2020 2:15 pm

A pregnant woman had a headache. What evidence of ghosts is presented in the next hour of this monologue? Can you summarise the evidence (not the anecdote), please?

Spearthrower · **#299** by **Spearthrower** » Feb 03, 2020 3:09 pm

ORZIL wrote:activate english subtitles ok

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kg_BybNufwo

Its 1 hour and 10 minute video of which all you've told us is 'turn on subtitles'.

No thanks, I've got a lot better things to do with my time than just to cast around trying to find what it is you want to talk about.

This is a common occurrence with you Orzil. Just write whatever it is you want to discuss; show that you're willing to put in a modicum of effort too, or else why should other people?

campermon · **#300** by **campermon** » Feb 05, 2020 7:07 pm

ORZIL wrote:activate english subtitles ok

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kg_BybNufwo

Kindly summarise the key points for the forum.

:thumbup:

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