Why Are Photos of Paranormal Activity Always Grainy?

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Re: Why Are Photos of Paranormal Activity Always Grainy?

#21  Postby quas » Jan 29, 2013 2:56 pm

Because the only people in possession of good cameras and competent enough to use them happen to be pornographers.
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Re: Why Are Photos of Paranormal Activity Always Grainy?

#22  Postby DavidMcC » Jan 29, 2013 3:43 pm

Spearthrower wrote:
Why Are Photos of Paranormal Activity Always Grainy?


It's the nature of the phenomena - they cause photoreceptive devices to malfunction temporarily.

quas wrote:Because the only people in possession of good cameras and competent enough to use them happen to be pornographers.


R-i-i-g-h-t! So, it's because sex makes you blind! :smile: :smug: :dopey: :ill:
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Re: Why Are Photos of Paranormal Activity Always Grainy?

#23  Postby lpetrich » Mar 19, 2013 12:24 pm

Yet more evidence of the shyness effect of paranormal phenomena, something noted by philosopher David Hume around 1750 about miracles. They have a remarkable tendency to avoid good documenters and good documentation technology.

We can see this in psi research. In the late 19th cy., it started off researching ghosts and the like, but over the 20th cy., it was reduced to research of card guessing and then to research of influencing radioactive decay.

"Real" science tends to do the opposite: ATLAS Experiment - Photos - Plots. Notice how the Higgs-particle bump gets stronger and stronger as the detector collects more data.


Here's a possible case of improved observation technology vs. paranormal phenomena:

TWILIGHT OF THE GULLIBLE | More Intelligent Life
There used to be many reported sightings of UFOs, but modern life has not been kind to them. Charles Nevin finds out why

At a conference organized by the Association for the Scientific Study of Anomalous Phenomena (ASSAP), UFO skeptic Ian Ridpath noted a great variety of things that have been reported as Unidentified Flying Objects: Venus, garbage-bag balloons, blurred birds, meteorites, ...

The ASSAP has noted not only a sharp drop of claimed UFO sightings, but also a fall-off in the popularity of UFO-investigation groups.
Ridpath gave an assured performance, received with applause. He stressed that there had been no classic UFO sightings since the advent of the new generation of technology, and, especially, the mobile-phone camera, whose ubiquity, it might have been thought, should almost have guaranteed convincing photographic evidence of the inquisitive green men and their conveyances.

But could there also be other factors, like the rise of the organized skeptic movement and a decline in gullibility? Charles Nevin finds neither hypothesis very convincing.

It would be interesting to see if something similar happens to cryptids like Bigfoot and the Loch Ness Monster.
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Re: Why Are Photos of Paranormal Activity Always Grainy?

#24  Postby kennyc » Mar 19, 2013 12:40 pm

MrFungus420 wrote:Because it is easier to fake a shitty photo.



And the concept extends well beyond photos. The word salad that is woo is quite unfocused and grainy.

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Re: Why Are Photos of Paranormal Activity Always Grainy?

#25  Postby Nicko » Mar 19, 2013 1:19 pm

quas wrote:Because the only people in possession of good cameras and competent enough to use them happen to be pornographers.


Considering the number of "abductees" who claim to have gotten "lucky" with E.T., you would think this would ... never mind.

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But a related question is why the fact that everyone who owns a mobile phone has a decent digital camera on them at all times has not resulted in an explosion of "paraphotos". I mean, not too long ago, the rarity of these photos could be explained by the unlikely nature of wooishness just coincidentally happening to happen in the vicinity of someone with photographic equipment at the ready.

Now, everyone has a camera in their pocket. Why has this not resulted in a massive increase in the number of paraphotos?

No, wait! I have the answer! Aliens are reversing the polarity of bigfoot's woo-particles and bouncing the signal off of Loch Ness and the Bermuda Triangle! That must be it!

I knew there had to be a logical explanation.
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Re: Why Are Photos of Paranormal Activity Always Grainy?

#26  Postby chairman bill » Mar 19, 2013 1:31 pm

One reason (historically) for grainy photos is likely to be the low light in which they were taken. Fast films had poor grain structures, and pushing the film even further for serious low-light images just made things worse. The low-light ability of modern DSLRs like the Nikon D700/D3/D3s means there's less excuse today
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Re: Why Are Photos of Paranormal Activity Always Grainy?

#27  Postby kennyc » Mar 19, 2013 1:33 pm

Ah so it's Kodak's fault!
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Re: Why Are Photos of Paranormal Activity Always Grainy?

#28  Postby Blackadder » Mar 19, 2013 1:46 pm

Because point and shoot cameras producing photographic clarity would result in point and laugh photographs.
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Re: Why Are Photos of Paranormal Activity Always Grainy?

#29  Postby chairman bill » Mar 19, 2013 3:40 pm

kennyc wrote:Ah so it's Kodak's fault!


Well their really fast film was very grainy ...

The point is, with modern digital cameras, there is far less excuse, and if these alleged apparition are amenable to being photographed, we should expect some decent images.
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Re: Why Are Photos of Paranormal Activity Always Grainy?

#30  Postby petwo » Apr 14, 2013 5:42 pm

Bigfoot is a special case. These creatures are commonly encountered by hunters in the woods. It gets cold and miserable on these treks but most good hunters come prepared with an assortment of beer & liquor, some weed and whatever. After they've overindulged a little bit they become remarkably good at shooting and killing cows in a farmer's field, hitting No Trespassing signs or occasionally blasting one another from 300-400 yards, no problem. Still, when it comes to taking pics of Bigfoot, they are woefully inadequate. When Bigfoot arrives on the scene it seems hunters suddenly can't shoot straight or snap a decent photograph. Must be some kind of force field being emitted by these creatures that hinders accuracy and blurs the image.
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Re: Why Are Photos of Paranormal Activity Always Grainy?

#31  Postby lobawad » Apr 14, 2013 5:52 pm

I wish television shows were as consistently funny as you guys, LOL
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Re: Why Are Photos of Paranormal Activity Always Grainy?

#32  Postby Aca » Apr 14, 2013 9:10 pm

quas wrote:Because the only people in possession of good cameras and competent enough to use them happen to be pornographers.


So, all it takes is someone to catch couple (or more) ghosts having sex and we'll have a clear picture :coffee:
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Re: Why Are Photos of Paranormal Activity Always Grainy?

#33  Postby pelfdaddy » Apr 14, 2013 9:56 pm

I really appreciate what these very simple grainy photographs provide by way of example. The average person has never learned to think skeptically or in a systematic way with respect to a personal discovery of reality. Grainy Bigfoot footage and ghost images that appear a bit ghostly are perfect opportunities to explain these important skills to the uninformed.

Just now, when my girlfriend--a pantheist--entered the room to ask "How are things in the skeptical world?" and saw the title of this thread over my shoulder, she laughed and thought it was a clever observation. I took the opportunity to explain, "There is a principle among skeptics that says, essentially, that whenever a natural explanation is available and plausible, it is to be preferred over a ghost story."

She acknowledged the wisdom in this principle and turned to go, allowing me to admire the view as she left the room.
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Re: Why Are Photos of Paranormal Activity Always Grainy?

#34  Postby chairman bill » Apr 14, 2013 10:05 pm

Aca wrote:So, all it takes is someone to catch couple (or more) ghosts having sex and we'll have a clear picture :coffee:


A photo of gay ghosts putting the willies up each other?
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