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Animavore wrote:Yes. They all have the value x = ?
Animavore wrote:Yes. They all have the value x = ?
jamest wrote:I'm not a mathematician, yet respect the intelligence and genius required to be a good one. However, from a philosophical perspective I'd like to explore the value of ALL mathematical proofs. That is, I'm not denying that some (if not most) are valuable. I'm just curious as to whether they're ALL valuable. I mean, I saw Cali's post here:
http://www.rationalskepticism.org/fun-g ... l#p2623602
Lots of 'proofs'. Do they ALL have metaphysical potential and hence value? That's what I want to discuss.
LucidFlight wrote:Animavore wrote:Yes. They all have the value x = ?
Although, the underlying metaphysical value may vary, depending upon how the observation has been orchestrated. That is, x may not be equal to observed y. Therefore, any real mathematical value is put into question from a metaphysical perspective.
Thomas Eshuis wrote:jamest wrote:I'm not a mathematician, yet respect the intelligence and genius required to be a good one. However, from a philosophical perspective I'd like to explore the value of ALL mathematical proofs. That is, I'm not denying that some (if not most) are valuable. I'm just curious as to whether they're ALL valuable. I mean, I saw Cali's post here:
http://www.rationalskepticism.org/fun-g ... l#p2623602
Lots of 'proofs'. Do they ALL have metaphysical potential and hence value? That's what I want to discuss.
Does metaphysics have value?
jamest wrote:Thomas Eshuis wrote:jamest wrote:I'm not a mathematician, yet respect the intelligence and genius required to be a good one. However, from a philosophical perspective I'd like to explore the value of ALL mathematical proofs. That is, I'm not denying that some (if not most) are valuable. I'm just curious as to whether they're ALL valuable. I mean, I saw Cali's post here:
http://www.rationalskepticism.org/fun-g ... l#p2623602
Lots of 'proofs'. Do they ALL have metaphysical potential and hence value? That's what I want to discuss.
Does metaphysics have value?
Of course metaphysics has value.
jamest wrote:That's why we're all blowing each other up with explosives, etc..
Thomas Eshuis wrote:jamest wrote:Thomas Eshuis wrote:jamest wrote:I'm not a mathematician, yet respect the intelligence and genius required to be a good one. However, from a philosophical perspective I'd like to explore the value of ALL mathematical proofs. That is, I'm not denying that some (if not most) are valuable. I'm just curious as to whether they're ALL valuable. I mean, I saw Cali's post here:
http://www.rationalskepticism.org/fun-g ... l#p2623602
Lots of 'proofs'. Do they ALL have metaphysical potential and hence value? That's what I want to discuss.
Does metaphysics have value?
Of course metaphysics has value.
Demonstrate James, don't asssert.
jamest wrote:That's why we're all blowing each other up with explosives, etc..
I don't know in what kind of alternate reality you find yourself, but don't presume to speak for others.
jamest wrote:Lots of 'proofs'. Do they ALL have metaphysical potential and hence value? That's what I want to discuss.
jamest wrote:
Every single action we take is based upon our own metaphysical values. The reality we realise. This should be fucking obvious, but if it's not then consider that if you consider yourself to BE a physical human-being then that's going to have profound repercussions for the decisions that you thereafter make. Likewise, if you're a theist, the same. Moreover, depending upon the kind of theist you are, whether you'll use terrorism or reason to communicate your 'truth'.
Human history has been a metaphysical debate/war since day one. Still is.
jamest wrote:LucidFlight wrote:Animavore wrote:Yes. They all have the value x = ?
Although, the underlying metaphysical value may vary, depending upon how the observation has been orchestrated. That is, x may not be equal to observed y. Therefore, any real mathematical value is put into question from a metaphysical perspective.
Metaphysical values do not vary, they are absolute. Either x = reality, or it does not. There's no middle-ground.
SafeAsMilk wrote:What is the metametaphysical value of the metaphysical value of ALL mathematical proofs?
LucidFlight wrote:SafeAsMilk wrote:What is the metametaphysical value of the metaphysical value of ALL mathematical proofs?
If it can be shown, metaphysically, that 1+1=1, then its metaphysical value is to invalidate ALL Darwinian and materialist truths in mathematics. If it can indeed be shown that everything is nought but the indivisible one that is everything, then we have every right as philosophers to demand that mathematicians around the world burn their copies of Principia Mathematica and embrace the revolutionary paradigm change that will eliminate all wars, poverty, and disease.
Thommo wrote:You may find this article about Tits and Fun of relevance/interest:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_with_one_element
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