laklak wrote:Well, to be fair he'd probably get arrested if he followed through...
on stage, that is.

Socrates versus reality.
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laklak wrote:Well, to be fair he'd probably get arrested if he followed through...
Thommo wrote:
I'm glad we agree that daily tasks may or may not provide satisfaction. Where exactly does that get your argument?
wisedupearly wrote:laklak wrote:
A flat out shitton. Now he's building entire communities where retiring boomers can go live the Margaritaville lifestyle, eat in Margaritaville restaurants, wear Margaritaville flip-flops, and go on vacation to Margaritaville resorts. Evidently doing that increases their self-respect and sense of community (look up Parrothead clubs, they do a lot of charity work). And I'm sure Jimmy's self-respect is just fine, too. Value and meaning have little to do with it, what with it being just opinions.
My philosophy can also be summed up as "Fuck it, Dude, let's go bowling". You pays your money and you takes your choice.
The text in the video said "Why don't we get drunk and screw"? Well clearly singing to massive audiences is exactly the opposite of getting drunk and screwing.
wisedupearly wrote:Thommo wrote:
I'm glad we agree that daily tasks may or may not provide satisfaction. Where exactly does that get your argument?
People who learn how to find satisfaction in performing daily chores/tasks are less likely to self-harm or commit violence.
People who learn how to find satisfaction in performing daily chores/tasks are more like to think and act rationally.
People who think and act rationally are more likely to strengthen the community.
Thommo wrote:
Those are all claims, which could be investigated empirically*, yes. What of it?
Rational comes from the Latin word rationalis, meaning reasonable or logical. If you're rational, you do things based on logic,
Macdoc wrote:
You want evidence based....
Macdoc wrote:Reproducible. For example most see the answer to the universe....but not all.
We know the answer is 42 but not why.
Then you must chase down the whys and how many. Very empirical ...little of logic.
What is OUR big problem, in your opinion? Not enough logic?
wisedupearly wrote:
I have the evidence of my experience. But clearly that will not impress/convince the skeptics.![]()
wisedupearly wrote:"rational. ... Rational comes from the Latin word rationalis, meaning reasonable or logical. If you're rational, you do things based on logic, as opposed to impulse or whimsy. The original meaning in English was of something endowed with the ability to reason."
think rationally = mental process based on logic, as opposed to impulse or whimsy
Community: "a group of people living in the same place or having a particular characteristic in common."
To strengthen a community = to increase the stability and happiness of a group of people by decreasing the level of negative actions/attitudes.
wisedupearly wrote:Thommo wrote:
Those are all claims, which could be investigated empirically*, yes. What of it?
I see it as being rational (reasonable?) to say that the states described are highly desirable to both the individual and thus the community. As such, we should confirm what is possible and the degree of improvement achieved (if any).
PensivePenny wrote:What is so rational about posting merit-less claims on a website where everyone secretly thinks you're a fucking idiot? What is so rational about being fodder for a bunch of bored intellectuals with an over-inflated sense of self-importance? And then, when rational opposition is presented by said intellectuals, their rationality and logic are dismissed in lieu of retaining a flawed world view?
What is so rational about creating a thread with the blatantly obvious goal of reinforcing one's own ill-conceived, irrational and incoherent world view that in no way comports with objective reality?
Of course, these are all philosophical questions and not directed at any one individual!
PensivePenny wrote:Stop it Cito! You know I hate having to look up words. You, you... intellectual you!
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