"If a tree falls" joke?? What is the answer?

rainbow · **#241** by **rainbow** » Aug 07, 2010 12:05 pm

newolder wrote:
rainbow wrote:Quite.
Why don't you just ignore the Silly Ponce?
Everybody else does.

Define "everybody" and you might have a case.

I have no case. Please exclude self-absorbed bores if you wish.

Spinozasgalt · **#242** by **Spinozasgalt** » Aug 08, 2010 4:45 am

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Animavore · **#243** by **Animavore** » Aug 09, 2010 11:45 pm

jamest · **#244** by **jamest** » Aug 10, 2010 12:11 am

Animavore wrote:

That joke can only possibly appeal to Beavis & Butthead fans. I don't want to hear the sound of any suchlike here, lest I believe that such twats actually exist.

SPMaximus · **#245** by **SPMaximus** » Aug 10, 2010 12:15 am

Animavore wrote:

Fucking love Cyanide & Happiness :thumbup:

rainbow · **#246** by **rainbow** » Aug 15, 2010 1:41 pm

rainbow wrote:
newolder wrote:
rainbow wrote:Quite.
Why don't you just ignore the Silly Ponce?
Everybody else does.

Define "everybody" and you might have a case.

I have no case. Please exclude self-absorbed bores if you wish.

May I apologise to anyone that I've offended by the above.

cgarbey · **#247** by **cgarbey** » Jun 06, 2018 4:03 pm

If a tree falls in the forest and there is no one to hear it, it DOES NOT make a sound. Sound is the interpretation of the vibration created by the fall which requires a processor or, ears.
If there is no one to process this vibration, then it remains as just that, vibration; not sound.

Thomas Eshuis · **#248** by **Thomas Eshuis** » Jun 06, 2018 4:23 pm

cgarbey wrote:If a tree falls in the forest and there is no one to hear it, it DOES NOT make a sound. Sound is the interpretation of the vibration created by the fall which requires a processor or, ears.

That's a nitpicking point.
The thought experiment is about whether things still happen if there's no-one to observe it.
It's far simpler to say does it make a sound, than does it make vibration that could be translated into sound.

Hamster · **#249** by **Hamster** » Jun 06, 2018 10:04 pm

I usually ponder how unfortunate for all the animals who must wish there was a person hanging around so they could hear the sound of all the falling trees and take evasive action.
A dangerous place, this soundless forest.

Hmmm... so dog whistles only make a sound if there's a dog (who can hear) around... I'd've thought a dog coming into earshot would verify that the whistle is working and indeed making sound, not change the definition of its output.

I had a friend once who entertained the idea that trees might move about in the night and go back to their positions while no one is watching.
Meh, on second thoughts, tis a silly question, let's not bother.

scott1328 · **#250** by **scott1328** » Jun 06, 2018 11:37 pm

Clearly you have never been to Fangorn forest

Cito di Pense · **#251** by **Cito di Pense** » Jun 07, 2018 9:07 am

Hamster wrote:
I had a friend once who entertained the idea that trees might move about in the night and go back to their positions while no one is watching.

I had this horrible dream last night. Everything in my house was removed and replaced by an exact duplicate. I told my friend about it and he said, "Do I know you?"

[/Steven Wright]

felltoearth · **#252** by **felltoearth** » Jun 07, 2018 11:36 am

Cito di Pense wrote:
Hamster wrote:
I had a friend once who entertained the idea that trees might move about in the night and go back to their positions while no one is watching.

I had this horrible dream last night. Everything in my house was removed and replaced by an exact duplicate. I told my friend about it and he said, "Do I know you?"

[/Steven Wright]

I totally read that in his voice.

ETA: which adds to the conundrum. If Steven Wright isn’t around to tell his jokes does he make a sound?

Fallible · **#253** by **Fallible** » Jun 07, 2018 1:30 pm

cgarbey wrote:If a tree falls in the forest and there is no one to hear it, it DOES NOT make a sound. Sound is the interpretation of the vibration created by the fall which requires a processor or, ears.
If there is no one to process this vibration, then it remains as just that, vibration; not sound.

Wait. How are we defining ‘forest’ here? And what do we mean by ‘falls’?

LucidFlight · **#254** by **LucidFlight** » Jun 07, 2018 2:23 pm

And what do we mean by 'ears'?

newolder · **#255** by **newolder** » Jun 07, 2018 3:24 pm

Lots of trees fell over in the forest around Mount St.Helens when the mountain blew its flank off.

I'm guessing the noise of their fall was drowned out by the cacophonous volcanic blast.

zulumoose · **#256** by **zulumoose** » Jun 07, 2018 3:52 pm

It's the vibrations that knocked the trees over, if they had ears it would just have been sound.

Cito di Pense · **#257** by **Cito di Pense** » Jun 07, 2018 3:54 pm

zulumoose wrote:It's the vibrations that knocked the trees over, if they had ears it would just have been sound.

imahaider · **#258** by **imahaider** » Jul 14, 2018 1:28 pm

If a tree falls in the forest while a deaf person is nearby, does it make a sound?

felltoearth · **#259** by **felltoearth** » Jul 14, 2018 3:20 pm

imahaider wrote:If a tree falls in the forest while a deaf person is nearby, does it make a sound?

If the tree falls on them, the deaf person will definitely make a sound.

Cito di Pense · **#260** by **Cito di Pense** » Jul 14, 2018 7:22 pm

felltoearth wrote:
imahaider wrote:If a tree falls in the forest while a deaf person is nearby, does it make a sound?

If the tree falls on them, the deaf person will definitely make a sound.

That sound is: "Sklursh!"

It's a sort of chicken-egg problem: Which came first, the sound of the falling tree, or the sound of everything in its path?

Which makes the sound? The wind? Or the willows? You might need your physics to work on this one.

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