BlackBart wrote:Bad news if solipsism is true. It ain't you, it's me.
Indeed, it's a valid point. There isn't one solipsism that we can agree on. Your solipsism is different to mine.
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BlackBart wrote:Bad news if solipsism is true. It ain't you, it's me.
zoon wrote:
I'm still not clear how to come to terms with the view that my own consciousness is an illusion:
I dont think that solipsism states that nothing exists besides our consciousness, it merely states that we can never know anything about what exists outside our consciousness because we will never experience anything other than our consciousness. which means there is no reason to believe other people are actually other minds, or to believe that the external world's contents will 'continue to exist' when we are not experiencing them.
but solipsism does not deny that what we are experiencing is caused by external ripples.. this is still within possibility. It can simply never be determined true or not.
solipsism is logically flawless.. but it is also uninformative in the strictest sense of the word.
I believe it (or at least respect it) because there is no hard evidence to suggest an alternative viewpoint (other than personal comfort and social convenience), it is seemingly impossible to disprove, and it is the final product of Occam's razor.
Frozenworld wrote:I'm more concerned with the claims that solipsism is a logically perfect argument:
because there is no hard evidence to suggest an alternative viewpoint (other than personal comfort and social convenience), it is seemingly impossible to disprove
jamest wrote:Idealism is a PHILOSOPHY, not a religion. It's a concept based upon reason and contemplation, not holy books.
solipsism ... merely states that we can never know anything about what exists outside our consciousness
jamest wrote:It's nice to see SOMEBODY trying to instigate a serious conversation here on idealism especially when they don't categorise themselves as an idealist. Note the negative press here for Frozenworld though. You cannot fart the concept of idealism in this forum without being exectuted in here, even if you're not an idealist.
You should all be ashamed of yourselves for your closed-mindedness, Frozenworld apart of course. It's fucking disgusting.*
* Idealism is a PHILOSOPHY, not a religion. It's a concept based upon reason and contemplation, not holy books.
Thommo wrote:The closest we ever come here are inept narcissistic ramblings that degenerate into name calling in short order.
jamest wrote:When I start my own blog on arseholeism and retardedness, to say the least, I will be referring frequently to this thread.
evidence (noun)
the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid.
Frozenworld wrote:I'd like to submit this alleged evidence for solipsism:
https://www.quora.com/What-are-some-pos ... ent_type=2
Frozenworld wrote:I'd like to submit this alleged evidence for solipsism:
https://www.quora.com/What-are-some-pos ... ent_type=2
What is the problem with solipsism? It seems you are looking for a solution without a problem.
Philosophically, I am a solipsist and a panpsychist.
My position (super) is that we are all solipsists in superposition with each other and so the only mind that exists that we can know for certain is our own.
From that standpoint (mine), all the other entities (solipsists) might as well be p-zombies (7.5 billion at least – from fully fleshed examples fading to abstract conceptual entities. I believe that the others to themselves are fully fledged solipsists in their own right and not p-zombies but from each of our individual existences, the all the others are p-zombies....
jamest wrote:It's nice to see SOMEBODY trying to instigate a serious conversation here on idealism especially when they don't categorise themselves as an idealist. Note the negative press here for Frozenworld though. You cannot fart the concept of idealism in this forum without being exectuted in here, even if you're not an idealist.
You should all be ashamed of yourselves for your closed-mindedness,
* Idealism is a PHILOSOPHY, not a religion. It's a concept based upon reason and contemplation, not holy books.
jamest wrote:You cannot fart the concept of idealism in this forum without being exectuted in here, even if you're not an idealist.
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