Regina wrote:Cito wrote:
Nothing ventured, nothing bent.
Just out of curiosity, has any of these here thinkers come up with why X, World Mind, The Great Wanker in the Sky et al are
necessary at all? Because they don't have an obvious purpose, from what I can see.
Sorry, I don't have the time to trawl to assorted threads. So if anyone could point me to a relevant post, I'd be indebted to you.

They're trying to make up a story about where consciousnessness comes from, which they hope will make up for the fact that they can't do physics properly. Along the way, they invent existent entities that serve as a replacement for God. The reason I say this is because they give their existent entities responsibility for running everything. It doesn't matter whether reality is material or immaterial: Theology is theology.
If you don't ask them where they get their existent entities from (pulled out of their arses, is my guess) then they're just taking you on a merry chase on which you only ask them how they know what they know, and they have played you for fools. If they invent ontologies in the process of developing epistemology, you have to call them on it.
When they start talking about necessary entities, they might as well be talking about god. A necessary entity is one for which you don't have to say where it came from. It's necessary in the sense that it is necessary to any theology. God is the only entity I've ever heard of whose origins no one ever wants to talk about. God is used to explain the origin of everything else, but no one ever inquires into the origin of God.
These people hang about in the philosophy forum to disguise their theological narratives, and we mainly play along.