Cito, you will be surprised to learn that I know who Mr Geller is without using a search engine.

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Destroyer wrote:lobawad wrote:
Permission to speak candidly, sir!
You don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Jesus H. Christ home-gargoyle, even a minute of the winternet will reveal that there is more than one definition of existence.
I would be very interested in hearing another definition of existence. If you would be so kind.
Destroyer wrote:GrahamH wrote:
Seeking a cause for existence we would have to start with the non-existent, obviously. Your move...
Non-existence is precisely where we do start.
GrahamH wrote:
And how can the non-existent (not)be a cause?
Cito di Pense wrote:GrahamH wrote:
Seeking a cause for existence we would have to start with the non-existent, obviously.
Graham, I think you may have neglected to consider the self-causing existent. But let us not tarry with such trivialities, and move directly on to the problem of enumerating the relata of a property-exemplification nexus.
GrahamH wrote:Cito di Pense wrote:GrahamH wrote:
Seeking a cause for existence we would have to start with the non-existent, obviously.
Graham, I think you may have neglected to consider the self-causing existent. But let us not tarry with such trivialities, and move directly on to the problem of enumerating the relata of a property-exemplification nexus.
That sounds fun.
GrahamH wrote:Cito di Pense wrote:GrahamH wrote:
Seeking a cause for existence we would have to start with the non-existent, obviously.
Graham, I think you may have neglected to consider the self-causing existent. But let us not tarry with such trivialities, and move directly on to the problem of enumerating the relata of a property-exemplification nexus.
That sounds fun.
lobawad wrote:Sorry but your statement that there is only one definition of existence is simply wrong.
Regina wrote:GrahamH wrote:Cito di Pense wrote:GrahamH wrote:
Seeking a cause for existence we would have to start with the non-existent, obviously.
Graham, I think you may have neglected to consider the self-causing existent. But let us not tarry with such trivialities, and move directly on to the problem of enumerating the relata of a property-exemplification nexus.
That sounds fun.
Isn't that a novel by Henry Miller?![]()
Cito di Pense wrote:
Of course, I know that. There's no way for you to know how this obsession with spoons, as you glibly call it, originated. But really, I had to needle you a little for bluntly asking about the meaning of a running joke.
IOW, it is not self-evident. Really, it is not my obsession with spoons. It's someone else's obsession with self-evidence. Some people simply cannot suss that god is not self-evident. Some people have so much trouble with this that they deify self-evidence.
lobawad wrote:Yeah, I'm pondering to beer or not to beer, too.
lobawad wrote:Destroyer wrote:lobawad wrote:Destroyer wrote:
Existence = Existence... There is only one definition of existence: "that which exists".
Permission to speak candidly, sir!
You don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Jesus H. Christ home-gargoyle, even a minute of the winternet will reveal that there is more than one definition of existence.
I would be very interested in hearing another definition of existence. If you would be so kind.
Sure, how about the most obvious example. You say "There is only one definition of existence: "that which exists"", but this simply not true, for others say that existence is a property of things, and not that existence is "that which exists".
Start here:
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/existence/
Sorry but your statement that there is only one definition of existence is simply wrong.
lobawad wrote:
In Slovenia, it's more like, I'm late.
Cito di Pense wrote:
Well, you and I agree that reality isn't everything, since there is unreality to deal with, at least discursively. Discourse exists. But you would never say that non-existence and unreality are the same thing. Would you? You'd probably say everything is everything.
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