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Some bollocks about nothing, ones and twos

#1  Postby jamest » Jul 09, 2016 8:38 pm

I'm bored, so might as well talk bollocks.

First, what is 'two' other than a collection of ones? That is, things only exist as ones, or even as one [collection of ones]. Of course, nothing is a non-existent qualifier and so no thing exists as nothing, and if it does then it is wrong to call it nothing. So spare me the spiel.

So, we have ones. But how many? Numerous or one? Well, let's consider the former. If we have numerous ones then they're all separated by, err, does not compute... they cannot be separated. Why? Because nothing cannot separate anything and thus every one thing must be intimately connected. A flow of one thing into the next, so to speak. But then if this is the case then every one thing is in fact just one thing behaving in numerous ways.

So there ya go. A proof that all of existence is one thing, in about a hundred words.

Consequently, the prices of my robes and sandals have just increased in price. Supply & demand, I'm afraid.
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#2  Postby Scar » Jul 09, 2016 8:41 pm

I'm drunk so I might as well say porridge.
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#3  Postby Arnold Layne » Jul 09, 2016 8:49 pm

jamest wrote:Consequently, the prices of my robes and sandals have just increased in price. Supply & demand, I'm afraid.

If everything is one thing and can't be separated, how can you sell robes and sandals as separate items? :scratch:

Perhaps they can be separated by other stuff after all.
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#4  Postby jamest » Jul 09, 2016 8:53 pm

Arnold Layne wrote:
jamest wrote:Consequently, the prices of my robes and sandals have just increased in price. Supply & demand, I'm afraid.

If everything is one thing and can't be separated, how can you sell robes and sandals as separate items? :scratch:

Perhaps they can be separated by other stuff after all.

Shut up or my sales will plummet.
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#5  Postby tuco » Jul 09, 2016 8:55 pm

In memory of the guy with moustache:

Identity and Individuality in Quantum Theory

.. Lavine suggested that quantum objects can be regarded as the smallest possible amounts of ‘stuff’ and, crucially, that a multi-particle state represents a further amount of stuff such that it does not contain proper parts (1991). Such a view, he claims, avoids the metaphysically problematic aspects of both the individuals and non-individuals packages.


Another issue concerns the manner in which ‘stuff’ combines: how do we go from the amounts of stuff represented by two independent photons, to the amount represented by a joint two-photon state? The analogies Lavine gives are well known: drops of water, money in the bank, bumps on a rope (Teller 1983; Hesse 1963)


http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/qt-idind/

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#6  Postby jamest » Jul 09, 2016 8:55 pm

Scar wrote:I'm drunk so I might as well say porridge.

The average quality of your responses has just improved.
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#7  Postby Arnold Layne » Jul 09, 2016 9:02 pm

Porridge can't be separated, it's one glutinous slime.
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Re: Some bollocks about nothing, ones and twos

#8  Postby jamest » Jul 09, 2016 9:19 pm

Arnold Layne wrote:Porridge can't be separated, it's one glutinous slime.

If this were true, spoons would be useless. :grin:
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#9  Postby Cito di Pense » Jul 09, 2016 10:19 pm

jamest wrote:First, what is 'two' other than a collection of ones?


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#10  Postby SafeAsMilk » Jul 09, 2016 10:39 pm

Actually everything is twos, since ones are just half-twos.
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#11  Postby Scar » Jul 09, 2016 10:46 pm

jamest wrote:
Scar wrote:I'm drunk so I might as well say porridge.

The average quality of your responses has just improved.

Thanks! I honestly like you too!
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#12  Postby jamest » Jul 09, 2016 10:58 pm

Cito di Pense wrote:
jamest wrote:First, what is 'two' other than a collection of ones?


Meet me half-way, and we can talk about it. How long is a piece of string?

Don't talk to me about pieces of string. Either bring the whole string or shove it where only frozen badgers normally go.
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#13  Postby jamest » Jul 09, 2016 10:59 pm

SafeAsMilk wrote:Actually everything is twos, since ones are just half-twos.

Half my arse is still an arse.
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#14  Postby SafeAsMilk » Jul 09, 2016 11:47 pm

jamest wrote:
SafeAsMilk wrote:Actually everything is twos, since ones are just half-twos.

Half my arse is still an arse.

No, it's an arse-cheek. Of half-assed. Whichever you prefer. Either way, it goes along with what I said nicely.
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#15  Postby jamest » Jul 10, 2016 12:17 am

SafeAsMilk wrote:
jamest wrote:
SafeAsMilk wrote:Actually everything is twos, since ones are just half-twos.

Half my arse is still an arse.

No, it's an arse-cheek. Of half-assed. Whichever you prefer. Either way, it goes along with what I said nicely.

If I were to steal half the moon tonight and shove it where the sun don't shine, we'd still have a moon. I'm not sure if you're trying to make a serious point wrt the OP, but if you are then spell it out and I'll come back and dismantle it. In short order.
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#16  Postby don't get me started » Jul 10, 2016 1:11 am

Cito di Pense wrote:
jamest wrote:First, what is 'two' other than a collection of ones?


Meet me half-way, and we can talk about it. How long is a piece of string?


How long is a piece of string? Twice as long as half a piece.
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#17  Postby SafeAsMilk » Jul 10, 2016 1:25 am

jamest wrote:
SafeAsMilk wrote:
jamest wrote:
SafeAsMilk wrote:Actually everything is twos, since ones are just half-twos.

Half my arse is still an arse.

No, it's an arse-cheek. Of half-assed. Whichever you prefer. Either way, it goes along with what I said nicely.

If I were to steal half the moon tonight and shove it where the sun don't shine, we'd still have a moon. I'm not sure if you're trying to make a serious point wrt the OP, but if you are then spell it out and I'll come back and dismantle it. In short order.

No, you'd have a moon and a sore arse.

I wouldn't dream of making a serious point about the OP, since I can't imagine you were actually serious about the OP to begin with.
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#18  Postby jamest » Jul 10, 2016 1:34 am

SafeAsMilk wrote:
jamest wrote:
SafeAsMilk wrote:
jamest wrote:
Half my arse is still an arse.

No, it's an arse-cheek. Of half-assed. Whichever you prefer. Either way, it goes along with what I said nicely.

If I were to steal half the moon tonight and shove it where the sun don't shine, we'd still have a moon. I'm not sure if you're trying to make a serious point wrt the OP, but if you are then spell it out and I'll come back and dismantle it. In short order.

No, you'd have a moon and a sore arse.

My arse can take it.

I wouldn't dream of making a serious point about the OP, since I can't imagine you were actually serious about the OP to begin with.

Then you're obviously a bot and should be banned for talking bot-speak. I'd start a feedback-forum thread about it, but my name is mud for a few days. Lucky you.
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#19  Postby SafeAsMilk » Jul 10, 2016 2:31 am

jamest wrote:
SafeAsMilk wrote:
jamest wrote:
SafeAsMilk wrote:
No, it's an arse-cheek. Of half-assed. Whichever you prefer. Either way, it goes along with what I said nicely.

If I were to steal half the moon tonight and shove it where the sun don't shine, we'd still have a moon. I'm not sure if you're trying to make a serious point wrt the OP, but if you are then spell it out and I'll come back and dismantle it. In short order.

No, you'd have a moon and a sore arse.

My arse can take it.

I wouldn't dream of making a serious point about the OP, since I can't imagine you were actually serious about the OP to begin with.

Then you're obviously a bot and should be banned for talking bot-speak. I'd start a feedback-forum thread about it, but my name is mud for a few days. Lucky you.

Was it my lack of imagination that gave me away?
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#20  Postby Cito di Pense » Jul 10, 2016 3:40 am

jamest wrote:
SafeAsMilk wrote:
jamest wrote:
SafeAsMilk wrote:Actually everything is twos, since ones are just half-twos.

Half my arse is still an arse.

No, it's an arse-cheek. Of half-assed. Whichever you prefer. Either way, it goes along with what I said nicely.

If I were to steal half the moon tonight and shove it where the sun don't shine, we'd still have a moon. I'm not sure if you're trying to make a serious point wrt the OP, but if you are then spell it out and I'll come back and dismantle it. In short order.


That's a mean moon meme, Moonbeam.
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