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Re: The final social revolution

#41  Postby felltoearth » Mar 18, 2019 11:26 am

Sound formed in a vacuum may seem a waste of time. It’s always been just the same.
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Re: The final social revolution

#42  Postby newolder » Mar 18, 2019 11:44 am

No hearing or breathing. No movement, no colours.
Just silence.
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Re: The final social revolution

#43  Postby Macdoc » Mar 18, 2019 7:49 pm

seems there was a song ......echoes ....etc. :roll:
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Re: The final social revolution

#44  Postby jamest » Mar 18, 2019 10:28 pm

Since my last response, about three days ago, there has been nothing significant and serious/relevant enough to respond to. I include on that list Thommo's post (32) on page 2, which was worthy of a reply until his last paragraph when suddenly he seemed to be accusing me of being a right-wing extremist. Wtf. So, room 101 for that shit.

And so, you're all mystified by my silence, really!?! :nono:
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Re: The final social revolution

#45  Postby felltoearth » Mar 18, 2019 10:36 pm

Any excuse, eh Jamest?
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Re: The final social revolution

#46  Postby SafeAsMilk » Mar 18, 2019 10:42 pm

jamest wrote:Since my last response, about three days ago, there has been nothing significant and serious/relevant enough to respond to.

To be fair, you should expect that when all you've posted in a thread is meaningless, vague ramblings that have no significance to anyone except yourself. And even then, the fact that you're never able to expand on these ramblings says to me they don't mean all that much to you, either.

I include on that list Thommo's post (32) on page 2, which was worthy of a reply until his last paragraph when suddenly he seemed to be accusing me of being a right-wing extremist. Wtf. So, room 101 for that shit.

Looks like you don't know what the word "inadvertent" means. I also suspect you were just watching the news and mindlessly picked up and altered the phrase.

And so, you're all mystified by my silence, really!?! :nono:

Heck no. Looks to me like the usual: you read your drivel in the sober light of day, were horrified and/or confused, and decided to cut your losses any say no more.
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Re: The final social revolution

#47  Postby Thommo » Mar 18, 2019 10:46 pm

jamest wrote:Since my last response, about three days ago, there has been nothing significant and serious/relevant enough to respond to. I include on that list Thommo's post (32) on page 2, which was worthy of a reply until his last paragraph when suddenly he seemed to be accusing me of being a right-wing extremist. Wtf. So, room 101 for that shit.

And so, you're all mystified by my silence, really!?! :nono:


Not mystified: Thrilled to bits.

You have nothing reasonable, or interesting to say as far as I can tell. So I'm delighted you've chosen not to say it.
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Re: The final social revolution

#48  Postby jamest » Mar 18, 2019 10:48 pm

felltoearth wrote:Any excuse, eh Jamest?

Any excuse for what, not responding to posts that have absolutely nothing to do with the OP but instead want to troll ME as a person? Correct, I have no interest in responding to those posts, but I don't need an excuse for not doing so.

This thread is about the final social revolution and I'll only be responding to serious responses about that subject, so if you expect to see me respond then get off your fucking arses and start using your intelligence.

Once again, if a mod comes along and reads this thread then please delete/move all irrelevant/disingenuous posts.

I guess that will leave us with just the OP then.
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Re: The final social revolution

#49  Postby Thommo » Mar 18, 2019 10:52 pm

I don't know, I can't say I found the OP relevant, intelligent or ingenuous either. It could happily be moved with the rest, I suspect.

I'd advocate chucking it in debunking or pseudoscience for the blatant misuse of logic alone.
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Re: The final social revolution

#50  Postby jamest » Mar 18, 2019 11:01 pm

Thommo wrote:
jamest wrote:Since my last response, about three days ago, there has been nothing significant and serious/relevant enough to respond to. I include on that list Thommo's post (32) on page 2, which was worthy of a reply until his last paragraph when suddenly he seemed to be accusing me of being a right-wing extremist. Wtf. So, room 101 for that shit.

And so, you're all mystified by my silence, really!?! :nono:


Not mystified: Thrilled to bits.

You have nothing reasonable, or interesting to say as far as I can tell. So I'm delighted you've chosen not to say it.

Then why the fuck did you give a detailed response (post 32, page 2) to what I had previously said?

... A post which, let us not forget, ultimately semi-accused me of being the kind of right-wing extremist who wants to eliminate anyone other than of Aryan/Christian stock, seemingly.

That was fucking pathetic and if I'd have said that to you I'd be currently suspended again, wouldn't I? Face FACTS.


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I'm still wearing my armour. I'm still not scared of you muppets.
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Re: The final social revolution

#51  Postby jamest » Mar 18, 2019 11:03 pm

Thommo wrote:I don't know, I can't say I found the OP relevant, intelligent or ingenuous either. It could happily be moved with the rest, I suspect.

I'd advocate chucking it in debunking or pseudoscience for the blatant misuse of logic alone.

You fucking hypocrite. Post 32, page 2, proves so!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: The final social revolution

#52  Postby Thommo » Mar 18, 2019 11:14 pm

jamest wrote:
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jamest wrote:Since my last response, about three days ago, there has been nothing significant and serious/relevant enough to respond to. I include on that list Thommo's post (32) on page 2, which was worthy of a reply until his last paragraph when suddenly he seemed to be accusing me of being a right-wing extremist. Wtf. So, room 101 for that shit.

And so, you're all mystified by my silence, really!?! :nono:


Not mystified: Thrilled to bits.

You have nothing reasonable, or interesting to say as far as I can tell. So I'm delighted you've chosen not to say it.

Then why the fuck did you give a detailed response (post 32, page 2) to what I had previously said?


I gave an explanation of the lack of logic, and what logic actually says for largely the same reasons I've previously explained special relativity to relativity deniers:

Because I have a background which privileges me with a little knowledge and the ability to pass on a more accurate summary of what those disciplines say, and that I have a personality which feels rewarded by passing along that genuine learning to the extent my limited abilities allow.

Do not mistake my intent, this is like debunking a flat Earther, I don't see it as a debate, and I don't honestly relish the prospect of your rebuttal. I just think logic is a fantastic tool that makes human civilisation better - when used correctly. So I hate to see its name or concept taken in vain.

jamest wrote:... A post which, let us not forget, ultimately semi-accused me of being the kind of right-wing extremist who wants to eliminate anyone other than of Aryan/Christian stock, seemingly.


It didn't. You've imagined that.

The very worst implication of what I wrote would be that you've used words that were buzzing around your head after seeing them on the news all day in a kind of tone-deaf and thoughtless fashion as a jumping off point for a rambling chain of thought. And the best implication would be that it was me who'd made the unfortunate association (the words were certainly buzzing around my head after hearing them all day long). I didn't investigate further.

I think, hand on heart, I would probably say I suspect (and it's nothing more than a suspicion) that's on you and not me - in that you got drunk, decided to get an endorphine rush from provoking some ratskeppers late at night and bigging yourself up in the process with your usual stream-of-consciousness rambling and riffing based on whatever was in your head in the moment (that phrase) and portraying the result as some sort of "rational" or "logical" output which it clearly wasn't. But as I say, I could be wrong, there's a lot of margin for error here which is why I merely noted the similarity instead of suggesting anything stronger. I'd hate to pretend there's no margin of error where there's clearly a huge one.

Anyway, I'm absolutely sure this conversation is going nowhere, focussed as it is on your ego and not on the logical content that made up almost the entirety of my point until I was pressed to clarify these trivial details.

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Re: The final social revolution

#53  Postby jamest » Mar 18, 2019 11:16 pm

SafeAsMilk wrote:
jamest wrote:Since my last response, about three days ago, there has been nothing significant and serious/relevant enough to respond to.

To be fair, you should expect that when all you've posted in a thread is meaningless, vague ramblings that have no significance to anyone except yourself.

This is the philosophy forum. I'm posting new ideas for you to think about and challenge. So instead of complaining about them being vague and meaningless to yourself, engage your fucking intelligence and CONSIDER what has been said.

And even then, the fact that you're never able to expand on these ramblings says to me they don't mean all that much to you, either.

I'm obviously not going to take the time to expand upon an idea when, even 3 days along the line, ALL responses thus far have been piss-takes and one has even accused me of being a nazi, AM I?!!! Wtf. :waah:

It's time for some of you to take a look in the mirror, seriously. I mean, when dozens of individuals like me have been banned because of a dozens+ group like your own, questions need to be asked. And when the gaff is starting to look more pathetic than Donald Trump's own chatroom, then what value is left here?
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Re: The final social revolution

#54  Postby Thommo » Mar 18, 2019 11:17 pm

jamest wrote:
Thommo wrote:I don't know, I can't say I found the OP relevant, intelligent or ingenuous either. It could happily be moved with the rest, I suspect.

I'd advocate chucking it in debunking or pseudoscience for the blatant misuse of logic alone.

You fucking hypocrite. Post 32, page 2, proves so!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


It's not hypocrisy. Hypocrisy is saying one thing and doing something else.

In saying that your post is no more deserving of celebration than any other post (including mine) and that the whole lot should be moved to debunking, I am not contradicting my stated values. I am not demanding you find my post intelligent, I'm merely telling you that just as you don't see merit in mine, I don't see merit in yours.
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Re: The final social revolution

#55  Postby jamest » Mar 18, 2019 11:22 pm

Thommo wrote:...

As I soon as I saw the disenguinty within your post, which wes the first sentence, I gave up.

You've lost my respect. I don't trust you any more.

Unless you apologise, I don't see the point of you participating in my threads any more. Other than for propaganda purposes of course, which is why you're here anyway. So, be my guest. I don't give a fuck, or wasn't that apparent already?
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Re: The final social revolution

#56  Postby jamest » Mar 18, 2019 11:25 pm

Post 44 explained my silence. Post 55 explains my silence henceforth.

You numpties need to address the post, not the poster. You're all guilty of trolling AND YOU KNOW IT. But guess who will be getting a formal warning here, if anyone? Same 'ol same 'ol.
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Re: The final social revolution

#57  Postby Thommo » Mar 18, 2019 11:27 pm

James, your respect never meant anything to me. You don't need to post about losing respect for me, nobody cares - not even me.
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#58  Postby Thommo » Mar 18, 2019 11:30 pm

jamest wrote: address the post, not the poster

Good advice, one wonders why you followed it with:

An address to the posters, not the post:
jamest wrote:You're all guilty of trolling AND YOU KNOW IT.

And an address to the posters, not the post:
jamest wrote:But guess who will be getting a formal warning here, if anyone? Same 'ol same 'ol.


This, incidentally, IS an example of hypocrisy, since you made clear earlier you were unfamiliar with the concept.
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#59  Postby jamest » Mar 18, 2019 11:41 pm

Thommo wrote:James, your respect never meant anything to me. You don't need to post about losing respect for me, nobody cares - not even me.

That's fine as it amplifies everything I've just said.

The truth is that I've ALWAYS been seeking GENUINE debate and I obviously know that this is hard to find in an atheism forum, but from time to time over the last 20 years I did manage to find a handful-or-two genuine guys/gals who I respected and thought worthy of my time. I must confess, you had me fooled for about a half-decade.

I don't mind people taking the piss/banter and disagreeing with me. FFS I count hackenslash foremost on that list (above), but that guy was always upfront with me and GAVE ME A CHANCE. He didn't just cut me off every time at the OP with utterly disengenuous bullshit.

The frustrating thing is that you're obviously a decent guy. But only when the mood takes you. Clearly, your mood with me is off.

I wish you well, but please desist from addressing me henceforth unless your mood changes.
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Re: The final social revolution

#60  Postby Thommo » Mar 18, 2019 11:49 pm

I have a better proposal: Make better OPs, make OPs when you're not drunk and engage beyond the OP. Obey your own injunction to address the posts and not the poster.

Either way, I won't care about your respect, but you may find yourself in some more engaging conversations, and if you listen you may learn enough about topics like logic to stop making blatant mistakes like those in the OP.
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