The mental disease of 'culture'.

jamest · #1 by **jamest** » Apr 19, 2019 2:14 am

What is right/wrong? What should you asprire to be/do? What plans should you have for your life? Conversely, what shouldn't you be doing/being?

These questions are difficult enough in their own right, but when one realises that the average person generally answers them in the light of their own cultural upbringing, one can see how utterly difficult they are to answer. Cultural brainwashing of all types/kinds gets in the way. We're all slaves from the onset to the incessant chatter specific to our own time/place.

We more-or-less think of ourselves as sophistcated individuals WRT our historical knowledge of the past. Guess what, every single future generation of people has intuitively had that thought. I mean, how could my generation be worse than the last when my generation has more knowledge and wisdom to draw from?

The problem is, you were so dumb (being a baby/kid) that you've never got to the point of questioning your culture in the first place. And for those that do, in their later years, in most cases the consequence will be that they will either do nothing or else just adopt another culture.

My message here funadamentally amounts to not wasting your lives being the fucking victim/mug of any culture. Otherwise, at the end of the day you're just going to be yet another muppet who achieved nothing other than sustaining the status quo of giving life to the mental disease of culture.

Seek yourself within yourself, not the eyes into and of the world.

Seriously.

laklak · #2 by **laklak** » Apr 19, 2019 3:17 am

When I hear "culture" I unlock my Browning.

tuco · #3 by **tuco** » Apr 19, 2019 4:38 am

Humans are social beings and their desire to belong cannot be suppressed. Humans are also individuals and their desire to express individuality defines such belonging. I would not call it a mental disease necessarily but those who do not have said desires fulfilled are quite abnormal and probably have a shitty life in one aspect or another.

Spinozasgalt · #4 by **Spinozasgalt** » Apr 19, 2019 4:47 am

How do we know you're not just answering from your culture? This project of unshackling the individual from precedent or exterior constraints by means of questioning and philosophy goes back at least as far as Descartes. And it continues on into individualist liberalism and libertarianism and, insofar as these philosophies have filtered down through our cultural machineries and left their residues on our popular and inherited cultures, they seem likewise to have left their residues here.

Cito di Pense · #5 by **Cito di Pense** » Apr 19, 2019 5:14 am

My solution?

https://www.amazon.com/Im-K-Youre-Not-H ... nskepti-20

I mostly don't like people, and jamest does little to change my mind, all these prodigious efforts to the contrary. For all I know, jamest is trying to convince me I'm right. Spare yourself the effort, pal.

Cats, I like, especially Maru, that smart one you see on youtube. I tried looking inward, but all I found was my liver, hanging by a thread.

Thommo · #6 by **Thommo** » Apr 19, 2019 5:16 am

Cito di Pense wrote:I mostly don't like people...

Cito di Pense · #7 by **Cito di Pense** » Apr 19, 2019 5:53 am

jamest wrote:What is right/wrong?

What a question! A better question is, what is banality?

Spearthrower · #8 by **Spearthrower** » Apr 19, 2019 6:48 am

Cito di Pense wrote:
I mostly don't like people,...

HEY! I'm mostly people!

/pout

tuco · #9 by **tuco** » Apr 19, 2019 6:52 am

I am goona report you all for off-topic. How about that? Cool?

Hermit · **#10** by **Hermit** » Apr 19, 2019 7:28 am

tuco wrote:I am goona report you all for off-topic. How about that? Cool?

I'm goona act scared. Not about the report, but about the mentally diseased cultcha you inhabit.

Blip · **#11** by **Blip** » Apr 19, 2019 7:35 am

!	GENERAL MODNOTE The discussion on Maru and other cats certainly deserves its own thread ; the relevant posts are now here.

tuco · **#12** by **tuco** » Apr 19, 2019 8:46 am

Svartalf · **#13** by **Svartalf** » Apr 19, 2019 8:54 am

Spearthrower wrote:
Cito di Pense wrote:
I mostly don't like people,...

HEY! I'm mostly people!

/pout

's Okay, how many people do you know who really like you?

Spearthrower · **#14** by **Spearthrower** » Apr 19, 2019 10:52 am

Svartalf wrote:
Spearthrower wrote:
Cito di Pense wrote:
I mostly don't like people,...

HEY! I'm mostly people!

/pout

's Okay, how many people do you know who really like you?

My mum.... and... other people... who are like my mum.

felltoearth · **#15** by **felltoearth** » Apr 19, 2019 1:04 pm

jamest wrote:
My message here funadamentally amounts to not wasting your lives being the fucking victim/mug of any culture. Otherwise, at the end of the day you're just going to be yet another muppet who achieved nothing other than sustaining the status quo of giving life to the mental disease of culture.

Or writing crap philosophy drunk and alone in the middle of the night on an inconsequential internet forum.

felltoearth · **#16** by **felltoearth** » Apr 19, 2019 1:07 pm

Blip wrote:[bluemn]The discussion on Maru and other cats certainly deserves its own thread ; the relevant posts are now here.[/bluemn]

Now *that* kind of moderation deserves the internet and I don’t give two hoots if I get sanctioned for discussing it in thread.

jamest · **#17** by **jamest** » Apr 19, 2019 10:51 pm

Spinozasgalt wrote:How do we know you're not just answering from your culture?

Because 'my' culture is white/English/British, and nothing I see therein can be responsible for me parroting the OP.

This project of unshackling the individual from precedent or exterior constraints by means of questioning and philosophy goes back at least as far as Descartes. And it continues on into individualist liberalism and libertarianism and, insofar as these philosophies have filtered down through our cultural machineries and left their residues on our popular and inherited cultures, they seem likewise to have left their residues here.

The only time I ever studied philosophy was to acquire my OU degree wherein for the most part I had to study materialistic/physicalist explanations for everything. I have no affiliation/connection/interest to/in philosophical circles. I.e., there is no philosophical culture pulling my strings.

In other words, I'm pulling my own strings.

jamest · **#18** by **jamest** » Apr 19, 2019 10:54 pm

felltoearth wrote:
jamest wrote:
My message here funadamentally amounts to not wasting your lives being the fucking victim/mug of any culture. Otherwise, at the end of the day you're just going to be yet another muppet who achieved nothing other than sustaining the status quo of giving life to the mental disease of culture.

Or writing crap philosophy drunk and alone in the middle of the night on an inconsequential internet forum.

The OP is not crap philosophy and the broken record about me being drunk as a ruse to avoid responding to such thoughts is disingenuous. Stop wasting my fucking time. :nono:

jamest · **#19** by **jamest** » Apr 19, 2019 11:08 pm

Cito di Pense wrote:
I mostly don't like people, and jamest does little to change my mind, all these prodigious efforts to the contrary. For all I know, jamest is trying to convince me I'm right. Spare yourself the effort, pal.

God forbid that I would ever be an advocate of liking people within a philosophy which ultimately states that they do not exist.

You don't dislike people anyway, you dislike their characteristics, generally. I reside within the same boat and I'm here informing you that those characteristics are generally a consequence of the mental disease derived from a particular culture.

romansh · **#20** by **romansh** » Apr 19, 2019 11:19 pm

jamest wrote:
You don't dislike people anyway, you dislike their characteristics, generally. I reside within the same boat and I'm here informing you that those characteristics are generally a consequence of the mental disease derived from a particular culture.

Yes … you belong to a relatively exclusive culture. So what are the characteristics of your mental disease?

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