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jamest wrote:Cito di Pense wrote:jamest wrote:
I've had a few interesting encounters with vessels of various types, for sure. My wife said that I reminded her of Indiana Jones on one of them!![]()
Regardless, continue to do your sincere best to sink me, as always.
No one can sink you if you don't ever try sailing. I don't know what you think you're doing here, but it's a pantomime of discourse. The sort of philosophy you're at, here, requires you to define order and chaos before you start, instead of assuming these are definitions with which anyone who wants to talk to you will concur. Imagining you have that is how you always start and is why you never sail anywhere.jamest wrote:
That post wasn't addressed to you. I've never for one moment thought that you were angry with me. You're too arrogant to have any such emotion.
No one here will accuse me of being overly sentimental, but that's not the same thing.
Nobody ever takes me seriously here. If my OP had been 10X as long, some daft cunt would still have said that I hadn't proved xyz as a response.
Thommo wrote:Indeed, the problem is very much not about length, but about content.
A non sequitur is an unjustified conclusion. Rather than claim it's been reached by some process (which isn't then shared, or which is horribly flawed) one could just state their conclusions. Of course, in this more transparent form the conversation might be much shorter.
"Person X" : I believe in God.
"Person Y" : I don't.
Thommo wrote:That jamest imagines chaos as some nonspecific lack of order, where order is some sort of quantifiable property (I'm inferring it must be quantifiable from the assertion that it exists in amounts, but there's just as much chance I'll be chastised for the inference as having it elucidated).
jamest wrote:
Ugh no, I don't want to be anyone here but myself. I'm a hero, ffs, but nobody knows it yet.
Thommo wrote:And that is the thread in a nutshell.
jamest wrote:If you have any objections to the OP then address my reasoning therein.
jamest wrote:
Nobody ever takes me seriously here.
jamest wrote: If my OP had been 10X as long, some daft cunt would still have said that I hadn't proved xyz as a response. And some daft cunt would still have... etc..
That jamest imagines chaos as some nonspecific lack of order, where order is some sort of quantifiable property (I'm inferring it must be quantifiable from the assertion that it exists in amounts, but there's just as much chance I'll be chastised for the inference as having it elucidated).
Spearthrower wrote:That jamest imagines chaos as some nonspecific lack of order, where order is some sort of quantifiable property (I'm inferring it must be quantifiable from the assertion that it exists in amounts, but there's just as much chance I'll be chastised for the inference as having it elucidated).
Agreed; there are many nested problems within the OP, but teasing them out and addressing them is going to be impossible if we can't even discuss a working definition of the terms used. I think it's unlikely that anyone else here would treat the concepts of chaos and order as antithetical platonic quantities, inversely proportional to one another.
That jamest imagines chaos as some nonspecific lack of order, where order is some sort of quantifiable property (I'm inferring it must be quantifiable from the assertion that it exists in amounts, but there's just as much chance I'll be chastised for the inference as having it elucidated).
Spearthrower wrote:2nd Plato 4:8-16
A doctor, an architect, and a computer scientist were arguing about whose profession was the oldest. In the course of their arguments, they got all the way back to the Garden of Eden, whereupon the doctor said, "The medical profession is clearly the oldest, because Eve was made from Adam's rib, as the story goes, and that was a simply incredible surgical feat."
The architect did not agree. He said, "But if you look at the Garden itself, in the beginning there was chaos and void, and out of that the Garden and the world were created. So God must have been an architect."
The computer scientist, who'd listened carefully to all of this, then commented, "Yes, but where do you think the chaos came from?"
jamest wrote:Member X: xyz therefore God.
Member Y: You didn't prove xyz.
Member X: You didn't address anything specific within my post. What is it that you want me to address?
Member Y: The bits where you didn't prove xyz.
Member X: Which bits, specifically? Where is it that you think I've failed.
Member Y: You just failed, dumbass.
Fenrir wrote:That jamest imagines chaos as some nonspecific lack of order, where order is some sort of quantifiable property (I'm inferring it must be quantifiable from the assertion that it exists in amounts, but there's just as much chance I'll be chastised for the inference as having it elucidated).
A: Don't do that. It upsets my CDO.
B: Don't you mean OCD?
A: No. It's similar but all the letters are in alphabetical order. AS THEY SHOULD BE!
jamest wrote:Member X: xyz therefore God.
Member Y: You didn't prove xyz.
Member X: You didn't address anything specific within my post. What is it that you want me to address?
Member Y: The bits where you didn't prove xyz.
Member X: Which bits, specifically? Where is it that you think I've failed.
Member Y: You just failed, dumbass.
jamest wrote:
This is the philosophy forum and whatever mathematics says, I'm not interested. So, shove it.
jamest wrote:
Right, I'm going to finish watching the film. I'll be back to review the abuse later.
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