Yes I like the first one. The vision in the second one seemed a bit underwhelming as they're just sitting talking on the phone. I would prefer it in podcast form so one didn't have to sit at the computer to use it.
For anyone who, like me, likes podcasts, I just stumbled on
this website with 168 of them on a whole array of topics. Great philosophers too: people like Peter Singer, AC Grayling, Simon Blackburn, Raymond Gaita.