A question on photons and volume

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Re: A question on photons and volume

#61  Postby DavidMcC » Jul 11, 2018 5:05 pm

Thomas Eshuis wrote:
DavidMcC wrote:Please show me "the plank in my own eye". I'd liketo see it, really, I would.

You seem to be impervious to selfreflection and self-criticism David.
You post baseless accusations that have fuck all to do with the topic and then proceed to lecture others about posting off-topic. :naughty:

DavidMcC wrote:I see that the hack has decided to weigh in. I guess it was only a matter of time, now that the topic I was trying to stick to when TE weighed in has had to be abandoned due to lack of interest. :(

Still projecting your own fantasies I see. :roll:

Before you butted in with your own agenda, I was discussing the OP topic of photons and whether they have volume. You, however, show no interest whatsoever in that. I wonder why? Could it be that your real concern is to provoke a big row? :roll:
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Re: A question on photons and volume

#62  Postby newolder » Jul 12, 2018 4:47 pm

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If it is, post some physics, instead of sepulchral pronouncements, such as:


I was, because what I said is correct, "sepulchral" or not. PS, please translate sepulchral into a meanigful physics term.

From my own pit of questions, could you translate "photon" into meaningful physics terms and describe how a single "photon" in a double slit experiment gets to its final position on the screen? :ask:

In every way possible? :ask:

Precisely, and it's not just words or complicated maths anymore: Exotic ‘non-classical paths’ affect quantum interference, experiment confirms
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Tiny effect
In 2014, a team led by Sinha used the path-integral formulation of quantum mechanics to calculate the effect of non-classical paths on the interference pattern from three slits. The calculations revealed that the deviation from a simple superposition depends on the size of the de Broglie wavelength of the particle. The effect is tiny for electrons and visible light – being one part in 108 and one part in 105 respectively – which is too small to detect.

However, they did show in 2014 that the deviation is much larger for microwave photons and now Sinha and colleagues have done an experiment that has measured this deviation for the first time.

Instead of using three slits, the team did a “triple slot” experiment whereby the interference pattern is created when quantum particles encounter three barriers (slots) to their propagation. Slots rather than slits were used for practical reasons related to the size and cost of the experiment.

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The team measured a deviation of 6% from the superposition principle thereby confirming the significance of non-classical paths. They also point out that their observation has implications for radio astronomy, where arrays of detectors are used to create large radio telescopes using the principle of superposition. Describing their results in the New Journal of Physics, the team points out that such deviations could affect observations made using arrays, particularly in precision astronomy experiments.

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...more @ link...
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Re: A question on photons and volume

#63  Postby Thomas Eshuis » Jul 12, 2018 5:03 pm

DavidMcC wrote:
Thomas Eshuis wrote:
DavidMcC wrote:Please show me "the plank in my own eye". I'd liketo see it, really, I would.

You seem to be impervious to selfreflection and self-criticism David.
You post baseless accusations that have fuck all to do with the topic and then proceed to lecture others about posting off-topic. :naughty:

DavidMcC wrote:I see that the hack has decided to weigh in. I guess it was only a matter of time, now that the topic I was trying to stick to when TE weighed in has had to be abandoned due to lack of interest. :(

Still projecting your own fantasies I see. :roll:

Before you butted in with your own agenda,

Still living in your own fantasy world I see.
I did not butt in with any agenda. I was reading the thread and noticed that you lobbed a baseless accusation at Newolder about an insult that was not present in his post.

DavidMcC wrote: I was discussing the OP topic of photons and whether they have volume.

False, right before I posted, you were making baseless and unwarranted accusations at other participants.

DavidMcC wrote: You, however, show no interest whatsoever in that.

I could not care less for your personal incredulity and ignorance.

DavidMcC wrote: I wonder why? Could it be that your real concern is to provoke a big row? :roll:

Again, truly fucking delusional. :crazy:
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Re: A question on photons and volume

#64  Postby scott1328 » Jul 13, 2018 2:36 pm



The double slit experiment didn't affront my intuition nearly as much as the polarized lens experiment.

This simple demonstration of quantum entanglement has always sent my intuitions spinning. Anyone that has access to polarizing lenses can do the experiment, perhaps at the next 3D movie you attend.
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Re: A question on photons and volume

#65  Postby laklak » Jul 13, 2018 3:01 pm

That is some spooky shit. I guess this proves Jesus and Heaven, right?
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