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Did the Chinese Government really discover ESP, Telekineses

#1  Postby Kataclysmal » Apr 05, 2018 11:51 am

I realise now I have to try and debunk this myself before, posting, so I have tried my best to debunk it, but I'm not quite there.

So, I found this report made by the CIA (link at bottom), I thought this was a weird article so I read it. Now, this was very different to the Stargate Project, this looked like it came straight from science fiction. Apparently, China tested telekinesis, telepathy, teleportation, you name it, all with psychic children, during the 1980's. I searched the internet but there was very little on the topic, until I found this:

https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom ... 00420017-1

This is another document that was released a few years later. It is written by a pseudoskeptic, Marcello Truzzi in the OMNI Magazine. He tries to replicate the tests and gets very different results. The tests involve the children reading things whild blindfolded, trying to prove telekineses, ESP and telepathy. The 'psychic' children in one test, get every answer wrong, and in others only get 20-30 percent of the test right, there were chances for the children to cheat though, as sometimes the instructor would block his view (he was watching behind a mirror presumably). Now, this does sound like a complete debunk, but the only problem is, I don't know if he is talking about the same children and the same experiments, that the CIA were talking about. The reason I believe this is because Marcello talks about the events taking place in 1979-1982 where the CIA were fully focused on experiments released to the public in 1981.

Here is Marcello's report (already shown above):

https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom ... 00420017-1

The official document by the CIA (read Pages 56-58):


Can someone tell me if they are both talking about the same experiments, as if not, I woukd have only debunked Marcello's set of experiments and not the ones the CIA reported. If they are, it will be fully debunked.

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Re: Did the Chinese Government really discover ESP, Telekineses

#2  Postby BlackBart » Apr 05, 2018 12:20 pm

No they didn't. You're welcome.
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#3  Postby newolder » Apr 05, 2018 12:25 pm

Spanish Armadillo, 3:30 Kempton Park. You're welcome.
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#4  Postby GrahamH » Apr 05, 2018 12:32 pm

But it's all true and the CIA did the same thing

Did you mean "is ESP for real?" No, of course not.
Why do you think that?
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