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Re: Need a simplistic answer

#21  Postby BlackBart » Feb 21, 2014 2:21 pm

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Scar wrote:Wow... what school have you been to and why didn't you ever pay attention in basic science classes?

Classes were extremely boring. Our so called "science teacher" itself had no interest :roll:


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Re: Need a simplistic answer

#22  Postby the_5th_ape » Feb 21, 2014 2:23 pm

BlackBart wrote:Basically, atoms don't fall apart in the same way as magnets don't fall apart - because they're attracted to each other by fundamental forces. You won't get a 'simplistic answer' as how these forces work, because you'll start to get into things like quantum mechanics and they ain't simple.

Alright, i get it :think:
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Re: Need a simplistic answer

#23  Postby the_5th_ape » Feb 21, 2014 2:24 pm

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Chemical forces of what?



If atoms are not made(created) in our bodies, then how are the "leaving" atoms being replaced with new ones? :ask:



Yeah, I knew that answer before


Maybe atoms enter our bodies by... magic or something? :think:


If you have no interest to explain, you can simply keep quiet :popcorn:


Since you're not responding to the many requests to stop spamming, I think not.

What spam? And what request? :coffee:
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Re: Need a simplistic answer

#24  Postby the_5th_ape » Feb 21, 2014 2:25 pm

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the_5th_ape wrote:If our bodies are fundamentally made up of atoms, then why don't we disintegrate? Why don't the atoms escape out of our body? :ask:


Intermolecular forces; http://www.science.uwaterloo.ca/~cchieh ... ermol.html

Bodies are constantly gaining and losing matter and energy to and from the environment. For example, respiration: http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/gcsebitesi ... rev1.shtml

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Re: Need a simplistic answer

#25  Postby ElDiablo » Feb 21, 2014 2:46 pm

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Re: Need a simplistic answer

#26  Postby the_5th_ape » Feb 21, 2014 2:52 pm

BlackBart wrote:
the_5th_ape wrote:
BlackBart wrote:
the_5th_ape wrote:
Classes were extremely boring. Our so called "science teacher" itself had no interest :roll:


Blaming someone else is the road to hell.

I swear on the mother of all heavens


And missing the point.


Nope.
A good teacher is one who makes sure even the "non-brilliant students" understand the subject, by keeping it interesting.
A bright student is one who can learn on his own with just a little input from an average teacher.

Or are you saying there are no bad teachers in this world? :think:



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Scar wrote:Wow... what school have you been to and why didn't you ever pay attention in basic science classes?

Classes were extremely boring. Our so called "science teacher" itself had no interest :roll:


Then how about you stopped wasting your time spamming this forum with conspiracy articles and such nonsense and instead use it to get a proper education? There's tons of places with more interested teachers.

Nah. I find Internet forums to be more fun and interactive place to learn :whistle:
And what have you contributed to this thread so far? None
So its better if you can keep :shhh: , and don't disturb as I am learning
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Re: Need a simplistic answer

#27  Postby the_5th_ape » Feb 21, 2014 2:58 pm

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the_5th_ape wrote:Chemical forces of what?


I don't understand the question. Humans and other animals are complex organisms which consist of billions of complex molecules which are chemically bonded together. If you don't understand chemical bonding then I'd suggest you start with a simpler question or maybe peruse the wikipedia pages on "ionic bonding" and "covalent bonding" for a bit of background.

the_5th_ape wrote:If atoms are not made(created) in our bodies, then how are the "leaving" atoms being replaced with new ones? :ask:


Atoms are only "made" via fission or fusion reaction, this does not take place in the human body, instead our bodies take large agglomerations of atoms bonded together in the form of proteins, amino acids and so forth and rearrange them. Atoms join and leave the human body as part of a larger structure. A single cell of skin that flakes off contains billions of atoms.


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Re: Need a simplistic answer

#28  Postby thirsting » Feb 21, 2014 3:14 pm

My jaw dropped a bit too, seeing someone who doesn't know about these things. But hey, no need to be mean about it. This is an opportunity, for all parties involved.


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Re: Need a simplistic answer

#29  Postby BlackBart » Feb 21, 2014 4:56 pm

the_5th_ape wrote:
BlackBart wrote:
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BlackBart wrote:

Blaming someone else is the road to hell.

I swear on the mother of all heavens


And missing the point.


Nope.
A good teacher is one who makes sure even the "non-brilliant students" understand the subject, by keeping it interesting.

Yep. Still missing the point.

A bright student is one who can learn on his own with just a little input from an average teacher.

Anyone capable of switching on a PC, can can learn on their own if they put their minds to it.


Or are you saying there are no bad teachers in this world? :think:


Not at all. First, I'm astounded you had just one "science teacher" for your entire academic career? Is that normal in US primary and secondary education?

And then, after that, you didn't pick up a book, visit a library, watch a science documentary or assimilate the information in the 50 news articles you read a day? What you've asked is pretty basic stuff.
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Re: Need a simplistic answer

#30  Postby the_5th_ape » Feb 22, 2014 6:48 am

BlackBart wrote:
the_5th_ape wrote:
BlackBart wrote:
the_5th_ape wrote:
I swear on the mother of all heavens


And missing the point.


Nope.
A good teacher is one who makes sure even the "non-brilliant students" understand the subject, by keeping it interesting.

Yep. Still missing the point.

WTF? The question was "what school have you been to and why didn't you ever pay attention in basic science classes".
And I have made the point.


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A bright student is one who can learn on his own with just a little input from an average teacher.

Anyone capable of switching on a PC, can can learn on their own if they put their minds to it.

Yes, and thats why I said its more fun to learn online than to go behind teachers. But the actual question thrown at me was on school and teacher. So my reply was specific to that.


Or are you saying there are no bad teachers in this world? :think:


Not at all. First, I'm astounded you had just one "science teacher" for your entire academic career? Is that normal in US primary and secondary education?

And then, after that, you didn't pick up a book, visit a library, watch a science documentary or assimilate the information in the 50 news articles you read a day? What you've asked is pretty basic stuff.


I don't know about the "american science teachers". Thats not where i studied.
Here, we go through a system of schooling for the sake of scoring marks, and to get a degree. Not to gather knowledge.
So we try to memorize words, and vomit it back in the answer sheets during exams. Thats what the teachers are trained to do. Make sure the students vomit all the crap. Most engineers and software professionals don't even remember basic science stuff taught in schools. In fact, some of my colleagues are not even familiar with science stuffs that even I know. And we are a bunch of game developers. Yea, I know that may sound shocking to all those very few "science speaking people" in internet forums.
In real world, even the well paid Software professionals do not have a need to know the basics of physical and biological science. This is the world we live in. Go out to the streets of new york and ask people some basic science questions. Not even 10% of them will know the answer. But when someone comes online to learn stuff, people try to poke fun. That not only exhibits their arrogance, but also ignorance
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Re: Need a simplistic answer

#31  Postby Betelgeuse » May 15, 2014 9:04 pm

the_5th_ape wrote:If our bodies are fundamentally made up of atoms, then why don't we disintegrate? Why don't the atoms escape out of our body? :ask:


"It's better that way." - College Biology Professor

I once asked a biology professor how it could possibly be that animals have two (up to eight) eyes which supposedly evolved over sixty different pathways. (Convergent evolution, all using the same complex polypeptide in their eyes.)

His answer: "It's better that way."

Ahh, the sophistication he demonstrated to me.

So go with that "simplistic answer." It's from a college biology professor.
He knows what he's talking about, right?
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Re: Need a simplistic answer

#32  Postby DougC » May 15, 2014 9:07 pm

He was talking to you.
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Re: Need a simplistic answer

#33  Postby Animavore » May 15, 2014 9:07 pm

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the_5th_ape wrote:If our bodies are fundamentally made up of atoms, then why don't we disintegrate? Why don't the atoms escape out of our body? :ask:


"It's better that way." - College Biology Professor

I once asked a biology professor how it could possibly be that animals have two (up to eight) eyes which supposedly evolved over sixty different pathways. (Convergent evolution, all using the same complex polypeptide in their eyes.)

His answer: "It's better that way."

Ahh, the sophistication he demonstrated to me.

So go with that "simplistic answer." It's from a college biology professor.
He knows what he's talking about, right?


Yeah right that happened. You got that straight from a Jack Chick tract.
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Re: Need a simplistic answer

#34  Postby Passer » Jun 05, 2014 6:03 pm

Scar wrote:Wow... what school have you been to and why didn't you ever pay attention in basic science classes?

This is just sad.

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