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Re: The strange link between the human mind and quantum physics

#21  Postby newolder » Feb 21, 2020 7:15 pm

When one pulls strongly enough on the gloo-woo connection, another woo appears from the vacuum. :roll:
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Re: The strange link between the human mind and quantum physics

#22  Postby laklak » Feb 22, 2020 1:25 am

Gloo-woo foam. It's everywhere.
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Re: The strange link between the human mind and quantum physics

#23  Postby socratus » Feb 22, 2020 9:22 am

newolder wrote:When one pulls strongly enough on the gloo-woo connection,
another woo appears from the vacuum. :roll:


Correct, as many scientific experiments show that effect
/ Casimir effect, Lamb shift, vacuum fluctuations . . . /
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Re: The strange link between the human mind and quantum physics

#24  Postby GrahamH » Feb 22, 2020 4:59 pm

TopCat wrote:
Blackadder wrote:
socratus wrote:Where can be the link between the human mind (brain is made of
approximately 100 billion nerve cells) and quantum physics?
The brain is made of approximately 100 billion nerve cells.
This number of cells is equal number of stars in galaxy.
Is there a link between macro-galaxy and quantum micro-physics?
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Yes. The link is BIG numbers. Which scare some people, confuse others and present halfwits with the opportunity to claim the existence of woo.

Especially as the number of neurons in the brain isn't the same as the number of stars in the milky way.

I predict that sockratus (sic) won't be around these parts for all that long.


There seem to be wildly varying estimates for this sort of comparison.

86 billion neurons:
https://decodethemind.wordpress.com/201 ... ven-close/
200 billion:
https://www.quora.com/How-is-it-possibl ... connection
100 billion:
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 121803.htm
Why do you think that?
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Re: The strange link between the human mind and quantum physics

#25  Postby theropod_V_2.0 » Feb 22, 2020 5:06 pm

So, we are mental dwarfs because we inhabit a small little spiral galaxy? Maybe when Andromeda shoulders its way into the neighborhood some real brainiacs can emerge. Hell, we’re just waiting around to be replaced by the monster intellects already extant there. Right?

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Re: The strange link between the human mind and quantum physics

#26  Postby laklak » Feb 22, 2020 7:35 pm

I, for one, welcome our new Andromedan Overlords.
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Re: The strange link between the human mind and quantum physics

#27  Postby GrahamH » Feb 22, 2020 7:45 pm

theropod_V_2.0 wrote:So, we are mental dwarfs because we inhabit a small

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It's only a comparison between unrelated large numbers.
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Re: The strange link between the human mind and quantum physics

#28  Postby laklak » Feb 23, 2020 2:38 am

"Dwarf" is not the preferred nomenclature, "mental Little People", please.
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#29  Postby theropod_V_2.0 » Feb 23, 2020 2:53 am

Tell that to Kanjiclub!

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Re: The strange link between the human mind and quantum physics

#30  Postby socratus » Mar 18, 2020 6:08 pm

A Theory of Quantum Mechanics That Suggests Everyone is Immortal
What would you do if you were immortal?
By Trevor English ,
March 12, 2020
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According to one theory in quantum mechanics, you are immortal.
One interpretation of a theory called quantum suicide ironically leads down a train
of thought that makes your immortality completely absolute.
Now, we're going to be discussing quantum mechanics here, so try to keep your eyes
from glazing over and stay with me, because at the end of this, you're going to be immortal.
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https://interestingengineering.com/a-th ... s-immortal
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Re: The strange link between the human mind and quantum physics

#31  Postby socratus » Mar 18, 2020 6:18 pm

So, if there are in fact endless worlds and you place yourself in a quantum box
being both an observer of quantum experiments and a test subject of them,
then you will live forever. That, is how you become truly immortal.
If you could, would you hop in the quantum box and live forever?
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Re: The strange link between the human mind and quantum physics

#32  Postby Keep It Real » Mar 18, 2020 6:19 pm

Stepping back a little, and stay with me here, the Schrodinger's Cat experiment places a theoretical cat in a box. As we observe the box with a cat inside, the state of the cat is both alive and dead due to the readily accepted view of quantum mechanics.


There is no "readily accepted view of QM" so the above article fails from the outset.
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Re: The strange link between the human mind and quantum physics

#33  Postby Spearthrower » Mar 19, 2020 2:04 am

socratus wrote:A Theory of Quantum Mechanics That Suggests Everyone is Immortal
What would you do if you were immortal?
By Trevor English ,
March 12, 2020
---
According to one theory in quantum mechanics, you are immortal.
One interpretation of a theory called quantum suicide ironically leads down a train
of thought that makes your immortality completely absolute.
Now, we're going to be discussing quantum mechanics here, so try to keep your eyes
from glazing over and stay with me, because at the end of this, you're going to be immortal.
---
https://interestingengineering.com/a-th ... s-immortal
=====================


socratus wrote:So, if there are in fact endless worlds and you place yourself in a quantum box
being both an observer of quantum experiments and a test subject of them,
then you will live forever. That, is how you become truly immortal.
If you could, would you hop in the quantum box and live forever?
---
https://interestingengineering.com/a-th ... s-immortal
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Why did you post this twice when its the same link, and all you've done is quote some part of that article without adding anything at all to it?

My take is that the article is poorly written - I very much doubt that the original paper on which this article is meant to be based actually says what this guy says it does.
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Re: The strange link between the human mind and quantum physics

#34  Postby socratus » Mar 20, 2020 8:52 am

Spearthrower wrote:
Why did you post this twice when its the same link, and all you've done is quote
some part of that article without adding anything at all to it?



When i read a book first time, i can understand about 7%.
When i read this book second time, i can understand a little more.
When i read this book after one year i can understand much more.
Of course sometimes i can understand nothing and therefore
i don't add something and wait help from others.
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Re: The strange link between the human mind and quantum physics

#35  Postby Cito di Pense » Mar 20, 2020 9:20 am

socratus wrote:
Spearthrower wrote:
Why did you post this twice when its the same link, and all you've done is quote
some part of that article without adding anything at all to it?



When i read a book first time, i can understand about 7%.
When i read this book second time, i can understand a little more.
When i read this book after one year i can understand much more.
Of course sometimes i can understand nothing and therefore
i don't add something and wait help from others.
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The point is that nobody can help a wrong thing on wrong juice.

The problem is worse yet when the wrong thing strays into the territory of not even wrong. For that one, it's like coming home.

socratus wrote:
If you could, would you hop in the quantum box and live forever?


Case in point. You haven't asked if the premise of your question is wrong, or not even wrong. You're only asking if someone has an idiotic opinion based on nothing. You have nothing to say, yourself.
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Re: The strange link between the human mind and quantum physics

#36  Postby Spearthrower » Mar 20, 2020 11:33 am

socratus wrote:
Spearthrower wrote:
Why did you post this twice when its the same link, and all you've done is quote
some part of that article without adding anything at all to it?



When i read a book first time, i can understand about 7%.
When i read this book second time, i can understand a little more.
When i read this book after one year i can understand much more.
Of course sometimes i can understand nothing and therefore
i don't add something and wait help from others.
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This is irrelevant. I'm not asking you about your reading proclivities. I'm asking why you posted it twice.
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Re: The strange link between the human mind and quantum physics

#37  Postby Blackadder » Mar 20, 2020 5:14 pm

Spearthrower wrote:
socratus wrote:
Spearthrower wrote:
Why did you post this twice when its the same link, and all you've done is quote
some part of that article without adding anything at all to it?



When i read a book first time, i can understand about 7%.
When i read this book second time, i can understand a little more.
When i read this book after one year i can understand much more.
Of course sometimes i can understand nothing and therefore
i don't add something and wait help from others.
===



This is irrelevant. I'm not asking you about your reading proclivities. I'm asking why you posted it twice.


Glitch in the Matrix, probably. :roll:
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Re: The strange link between the human mind and quantum physics

#38  Postby socratus » Mar 22, 2020 10:01 am

socratus wrote:So, if there are in fact endless worlds and you place yourself in a quantum box
being both an observer of quantum experiments and a test subject of them,
then you will live forever. That, is how you become truly immortal.
If you could, would you hop in the quantum box and live forever?
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https://interestingengineering.com/a-th ... s-immortal
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1 - Does immortality depend on Hindu's reincarnations?
2 - Does immortality depend on "Time-Lord's"?
3 - Does immortality depend on time/space travel technologies?
4 - Does immortality depend on motion faster than constant speed of light?
5 - . . . . ?
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Re: The strange link between the human mind and quantum physics

#39  Postby tuco » Mar 22, 2020 10:38 am

The way Time-Lords do is that they travel at the constant speed of light AND slow time thus moving faster than the constant speed of light, so 2 and 4 are one.
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Re: The strange link between the human mind and quantum physics

#40  Postby Hermit » Mar 22, 2020 11:25 am

The human mind, quantum physics and now the Time Lord's? None of this makes the slightest bit of sense, even without the superfluous apostrophe.

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