Pyrion wrote:I am following the Focardi/Rossi reactor quite a lot recently. My impression grew from mildly interested to almost excited over the last few months. October will show if they can deliver, everything else is just speculation.

I do have some answers to questions about the process, as far as it's available on the internet. About isotopes used: Rossi uses only Ni62 and Ni64, his Nickel is enriched for these two isotopes. He claims to produce Copper63 and Copper65.

Where are the gamma rays? The reactor has a lead shielding. The gamma rays are essential for the heat production. While absorbing the gamma rays, the lead gets heated providing a lot (if not all) of the reactor heat.

There is a secret catalyst that rossi uses, nobody (not even Focardi) knows what it is. This secret catalyst is supposed to be able to split hydrogen molecules down to atoms which are needed for the fusion to proceed. ...snip...

newolder wrote:hao else is fusion to proceed until teh electrons r moved out of teh way?

newolder wrote:hao else is fusion to proceed until teh electrons r moved out of teh way?

twistor59 wrote:

newolder wrote:hao else is fusion to proceed until teh electrons r moved out of teh way?

He's got a secret catalyst which switches off yer Coulomb. Keep up newolder

Pyrion wrote:This secret catalyst is supposed to be able to split hydrogen molecules down to atoms

newolder wrote:

twistor59 wrote:

newolder wrote:hao else is fusion to proceed until teh electrons r moved out of teh way?

He's got a secret catalyst which switches off yer Coulomb. Keep up newolder

silly me!

Pyrion wrote:This secret catalyst is supposed to be able to split hydrogen molecules down to atoms

and atoms, here, means bare protons?

Issue 37 of New Energy Times is available. It includes "Report #3: Scientific Analysis of Rossi, Focardi and Levi Claims."

This is the third in a series of reports about Andrea Rossi, creator of a device he calls the Energy Catalyzer, or E-Cat, Sergio Focardi, professor emeritus at the University of Bologna, and Giuseppe Levi, a professor in the university's Department of Physics and their claims of a low-energy nuclear reaction device that produces commercially useful levels of excess heat.




Does Rossi's device produce heat beyond that which is possible by chemistry? The device may produce some excess heat, but not nearly at the levels claimed by Rossi and his collaborators. In fact, the heat released from the experiment appears to be several orders of magnitude less than what they have claimed, at best.

Last year, Rossi and Focardi claimed an energy gain of 213 times. This year, Rossi downgraded that to six. Our analysis shows a possible energy gain of one to two times. In other words, Rossi's device probably produces Watts, not kilowatts, of power. It may, in fact, produce zero excess heat. We cannot know with confidence because of the poor data collection and reporting.

Report #3 reviews the scientific facts in detail.

The_Metatron wrote:No. Protons are protons. Ions are ions. Not the same.

Andrea Rossi's Reported Italian Criminal Activity

Appendix 36 to New Energy Times Report #3

by William Collis

[Ed: William Collis, the executive secretary of the International Society for Condensed Matter Nuclear Science, is a British citizen who lives in Italy and is fluent in Italian.

On July 15, 2011, Collis sent to the list a brief summary of what he found about Andrea Rossi's Italian criminal activity in Italian newspapers.

Collis was responding to an e-mail posted by physics Nobel laureate Brian Josephson in the Condensed Matter Nuclear Science e-mail list.

The archive search of La Corriere della Sera lists the articles Collis mentions as well as others about Rossi.]


Date:7/15/2011 7:59:28
From:billcollis

To: cmns@googlegroups.com

Brian:

[Collis quotes Brian Josephson:] "My gloss on this, assuming it is not fraud (and as far as I am aware, Rossi has not been found guilty of this in the past), is that they were experimenting with different mechanisms of enhancement and found a combination that worked much better in terms of heat production."

I thought Rossi's past was common knowledge.

According to an article published by Italy's national newspaper, La Corriere della Sera, Page 37, April 12, 1992, Rossi was sentenced to four months in jail (suspended) and fined.

The same paper, Page 45, March 24, 1993, reports Rossi was sentenced to eight months confinement (conditionally suspended) and fined.

Again, Page 49, March 28, 1996, La Corriere della Sera, one-year sentence, later reduced to a fine.

Again, Page 51, May 23, 1997, La Corriere della Sera, sentence of two years eight months. The article specifically mentions tax fraud and quotes the public prosecutor as saying, "For all these operations, there is no trace of contracts or agreements." One of the transactions involved transfer of intangible assets (list of clients, and technology) to the value of 725 million lire.

These cases involve only his Petroldragon activities. But it doesn't stop there. See Page 11, March 29, 1995, and Page 49, April 6, 1995, La Corriere della Sera. He was also jailed as part of an "international conspiracy" in illegal gold trafficking.

I'm not an expert in Italian criminal legal terms or mafia slang, so if you want to check, I can supply fuller extracts (in Italian) if anyone is interested. There's quite a lot of gossipy innuendo to wade through, but the articles are not all written by one journalist who might have an axe to grind. La Corriere della Sera is a respected and serious newspaper and is considered reliable.

http://newenergytimes.com/v2/news/2011/ ... ix36.shtml

newolder wrote:

twistor59 wrote:

newolder wrote:hao else is fusion to proceed until teh electrons r moved out of teh way?

He's got a secret catalyst which switches off yer Coulomb. Keep up newolder

silly me!

Pyrion wrote:This secret catalyst is supposed to be able to split hydrogen molecules down to atoms

and atoms, here, means bare protons?

... When hydrogen atoms come in contact with the metal (Ni), they abandon their stationary state as they deposit their electrons in the conductivity band of the metal, and due to their greatly reduced volume, compared to that of their atom, the hydrogen nuclei (naked protons) readily diffuse into the defects of the nickel crystalline structure as well as in tetrahedral or octahedral void spaces of the crystal lattice. ...