Harvard-Smithsonian B-Mode observation confirmed

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#41  Postby Pulsar » Mar 17, 2014 4:32 pm

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Re: Harvard-Smithsonian announcement pending...

#42  Postby kennyc » Mar 17, 2014 5:42 pm

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Major Discovery

#43  Postby the_5th_ape » Mar 17, 2014 6:05 pm

'Smoking Gun' for Universe's Incredible Big Bang Expansion Found
Astronomers have found the first direct evidence of cosmic inflation, the theorized dramatic expansion of the universe that put the "bang" in the Big Bang 13.8 billion years ago, new research suggests.

If it holds up, the landmark discovery — which also confirms the existence of hypothesized ripples in space-time known as gravitational waves — would give researchers a much better understanding of the Big Bang and its immediate aftermath.
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Re: Harvard-Smithsonian announcement pending...

#44  Postby hackenslash » Mar 17, 2014 6:09 pm

There could be a Nobel for Guth in this if the result is confirmed. What a spectacular result! It certainly narrows the field with regard to cosmological models.
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Re: Harvard-Smithsonian announcement pending...

#45  Postby Blackadder » Mar 17, 2014 6:17 pm

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Spinozasgalt wrote:I bet they've discovered moral facts. That's my bet. This is probably going to be an announcement about moral realism. I've been telling you all. Haven't I been telling you all? Get ready to be relegated to history, nihilists!



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Whatever it is, all of the materialist physicist types had better calm the fuck down until the philosophers explain why it is completely insignificant in the search for reality, which only they are equipped to lead.

Meanwhile the Koranic Physics Institute is working on explaining how it was predicted 1400 years ago in a verse that was until now assumed to refer to camel husbandry.
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Re: Harvard-Smithsonian announcement pending...

#46  Postby hackenslash » Mar 17, 2014 6:20 pm

One thing that will be interesting is how this matches up to Turok and Steinhardt's model with regard to the energy distribution of these waves, as there's potential for falsification. This will be the first falsification of a prediction arising from M-Theory. I'll have to scour the original papers again when I have moment and look at how it measures up.
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Re: Harvard-Smithsonian announcement pending...

#47  Postby kennyc » Mar 17, 2014 6:21 pm

Blackadder wrote:
kennyc wrote:
Spinozasgalt wrote:I bet they've discovered moral facts. That's my bet. This is probably going to be an announcement about moral realism. I've been telling you all. Haven't I been telling you all? Get ready to be relegated to history, nihilists!



No, No...they've received a message from GOD!



Whatever it is, all of the materialist physicist types had better calm the fuck down until the philosophers explain why it is completely insignificant in the search for reality, which only they are equipped to lead.

Meanwhile the Koranic Physics Institute is working on explaining how it was predicted 1400 years ago in a verse that was until now assumed to refer to camel husbandry.


Oh, wait, I forgot about that part.....thanks Blackadder!
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Re: Harvard-Smithsonian announcement pending...

#48  Postby Ironclad » Mar 17, 2014 6:33 pm

The newest and possibly most exciting news in science and what am I watching on the news? A super model is dead.
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Re: Harvard-Smithsonian announcement pending...

#49  Postby Pulsar » Mar 17, 2014 6:35 pm

hackenslash wrote:There could be a Nobel for Guth in this if the result is confirmed.

Probably not. While this result offers support for inflation, it's not a slam dunk. The existence of the inflaton field, let alone its properties, remains a hypothesis. In fact, the entire mechanism of inflation is based on a hybrid theoretical construction of quantum field theory and general relativity.
But it will be interesting to see which constraints these results can put on the countless versions of inflation that have been concocted. For example, there is some tension with indirect results from Planck, which hints at a non-constant scalar spectral index.
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#50  Postby hackenslash » Mar 17, 2014 6:41 pm

That's true enough. Not really had time to absorb the details yet.
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Re: Harvard-Smithsonian announcement pending...

#51  Postby campermon » Mar 17, 2014 6:49 pm

Exciting news indeed!

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Meanwhile the Koranic Physics Institute is working on explaining how it was predicted 1400 years ago in a verse that was until now assumed to refer to camel husbandry.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

...that deserves a nobel too!!!
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Re: Harvard-Smithsonian announcement pending...

#53  Postby Regina » Mar 17, 2014 7:06 pm

campermon wrote:Exciting news indeed!

Blackadder wrote:

Meanwhile the Koranic Physics Institute is working on explaining how it was predicted 1400 years ago in a verse that was until now assumed to refer to camel husbandry.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

...that deserves a nobel too!!!

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Re: Harvard-Smithsonian B-Mode observation confirmed

#54  Postby hackenslash » Mar 17, 2014 7:08 pm

It is useful. It gets Kalamity Kraig to shut the fuck up.
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Re: Harvard-Smithsonian B-Mode observation confirmed

#55  Postby Shrunk » Mar 17, 2014 7:11 pm

hackenslash wrote:It is useful. It gets Kalamity Kraig to shut the fuck up.


You think?
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Re: Harvard-Smithsonian B-Mode observation confirmed

#56  Postby laklak » Mar 17, 2014 7:12 pm

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Re: Harvard-Smithsonian announcement pending...

#57  Postby surreptitious57 » Mar 17, 2014 7:12 pm

Apparently inflation would prove the existence of the multiverse. How much longer before confirmation hack ?
You said two and a half hours but that was over five hours ago now ha ha. Why do monumanrtal decisions take
so long to announce ? These ones only come about once in a lifetime so I hope to God it is true because by the
time of the next one I shall probably be ash [ I am going to be cremated ]
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Re: Harvard-Smithsonian B-Mode observation confirmed

#58  Postby hackenslash » Mar 17, 2014 7:12 pm

Shrunk wrote:
hackenslash wrote:It is useful. It gets Kalamity Kraig to shut the fuck up.


You think?


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Re: Harvard-Smithsonian announcement pending...

#59  Postby hackenslash » Mar 17, 2014 7:15 pm

surreptitious57 wrote:Apparently inflation would prove the existence of the multiverse.


I don't think it's quite that simple.

How much longer before confirmation hack ? You said two and a half hours but that was over five hours ago now ha ha. Why do monumanrtal decisions take
so long to announce ? These ones only come about once in a lifetime so I hope to God it is true because by the
time of the next one I shall probably be ash [ I am going to be cremated ]


The announcement's been made. They have a sigma 5 result, but that result has to be confirmed by others before they can call it a confirmed discovery. The Planck satellite results should sort it out.
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Re: Harvard-Smithsonian B-Mode observation confirmed

#60  Postby tuco » Mar 17, 2014 7:17 pm

No audience makes Kalamity Kraig shut up ;) but asking about usefulness of such discovery, or rather confirmation of prediction, is like asking about usefulness of asking about usefulness.
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