twistor59 wrote:

trubble76 wrote:

twistor59 wrote:

In principle, yes, I don't see why not.

Woot I got something slightly correct, time to back away slowly from the thread.
There's nothing to make a man feel stupid like physics.

Ah, but does it not give you a stonking great wooden one ?

twistor59 wrote:Horizon tonight - "Hunt for the Higgs"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b019h7t0

twistor59 wrote:Horizon tonight - "Hunt for the Higgs"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b019h7t0

twistor59 wrote:The groaning is strong with this one:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/life-and-physics/2012/jan/09/1

LucidFlight wrote:

twistor59 wrote:The groaning is strong with this one:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/life-and-physics/2012/jan/09/1

One might say he really leapt onto those particle physics jokes.

Dudely wrote:

LucidFlight wrote:

twistor59 wrote:The groaning is strong with this one:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/life-and-physics/2012/jan/09/1

One might say he really leapt onto those particle physics jokes.

Wow. That's so gloriously bad.

rainbow wrote:

Dudely wrote:

LucidFlight wrote:

twistor59 wrote:The groaning is strong with this one:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/life-and-physics/2012/jan/09/1

One might say he really leapt onto those particle physics jokes.

Wow. That's so gloriously bad.

What I want to know is why they couldn't have just studied small hadrons, and saved us all a packet of money.

Since we’re now approaching the time when the preliminary results from December on the search for the Higgs particle at the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) will be presented in final form, possibly with small but important adjustments, and since there will be additional results based on the fall’s data in the next few weeks, it would be good to do a little review of where things stand and where they’re going.

THWOTH wrote:

rainbow wrote:

Dudely wrote:

LucidFlight wrote:
One might say he really leapt onto those particle physics jokes.

Wow. That's so gloriously bad.

What I want to know is why they couldn't have just studied small hadrons, and saved us all a packet of money.

Small hadrons are harder to find than their larger brethren. They are generally obscured by other material in very rarefied environments and have to be rooted out by the sensitive snouts of specially trained pigs.

Today's paper submission shows that these loose ends have now been tied up, and cross-checks have been done. Frankly none of them are interesting enough to describe in detail here. Which is a relief, really. The ATLAS result has not significantly changed; you can read about, and find links to the papers, here. The CMS collaboration have also submitted their papers.

THWOTH wrote:

rainbow wrote:

Dudely wrote:

LucidFlight wrote:
One might say he really leapt onto those particle physics jokes.

Wow. That's so gloriously bad.

What I want to know is why they couldn't have just studied small hadrons, and saved us all a packet of money.

Small hadrons are harder to find than their larger brethren. They are generally obscured by other material in very rarefied environments and have to be rooted out by the sensitive snouts of specially trained pigs.

Weaver wrote:

THWOTH wrote:

rainbow wrote:

Dudely wrote:
Wow. That's so gloriously bad.

What I want to know is why they couldn't have just studied small hadrons, and saved us all a packet of money.

Small hadrons are harder to find than their larger brethren. They are generally obscured by other material in very rarefied environments and have to be rooted out by the sensitive snouts of specially trained pigs.

And given the environment of super-colliders, we'd need spherical pigs that can survive a vacuum.

http://press.web.cern.ch/press/PressReleases/Releases2012/PR01.12E.html wrote:LHC to run at 4 TeV per beam in 2012

Geneva, 13 February 2012. CERN1 today announced that the LHC will run with a beam energy of 4 TeV this year, 0.5 TeV higher than in 2010 and 2011. This decision was taken by CERN management following the annual performance workshop held in Chamonix last week and a report delivered today by the external CERN Machine Advisory Committee (CMAC). It is accompanied by a strategy to optimise LHC running to deliver the maximum possible amount of data in 2012 before the LHC goes into a long shutdown to prepare for higher energy running. The data target for 2012 is 15 inverse femtobarns for ATLAS and CMS, three times higher than in 2011. Bunch spacing in the LHC will remain at 50 nanoseconds.

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