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Passer wrote:Thanks for this
I just realised I had this book: Self Aware Universe
I haven't read it yet, is it any good?

Passer wrote:Thanks for this
I just realised I had this book: Self Aware Universe
I haven't read it yet, is it any good?

twistor59 wrote:Passer wrote:Thanks for this
I just realised I had this book: Self Aware Universe
I haven't read it yet, is it any good?
Looks like Deepak Chopra-ish woo to me. I'd be very wary of that one.
Bribase is right, Feynman's QED Strange Theory..... is brilliant, but I don't think it's the best first exposure book. I think you need to see where all this quantum behaviour comes from historically before looking at the approach Feynman introduces. I think you need to know about blackbody radiation, photoelectric effect etc before thinking about Feynman's sum-over-paths. But then I'm old fashioned.

One day I'll have a eureka moment and be in two places at once...Or something 

Passer wrote:twistor59 wrote:Passer wrote:Thanks for this
I just realised I had this book: Self Aware Universe
I haven't read it yet, is it any good?
Looks like Deepak Chopra-ish woo to me. I'd be very wary of that one.
Bribase is right, Feynman's QED Strange Theory..... is brilliant, but I don't think it's the best first exposure book. I think you need to see where all this quantum behaviour comes from historically before looking at the approach Feynman introduces. I think you need to know about blackbody radiation, photoelectric effect etc before thinking about Feynman's sum-over-paths. But then I'm old fashioned.
I'm really just interested in this multi-verse concept. With all the different possibilities, and the tenth dimension.
Or am I totally barking up the wrong tree here?
Or perhaps just totally barking mad.




Passer wrote:So the 10th dimension/omniverse is just woo, a stretching of the known evidence we have?

twistor59 wrote:Passer wrote:So the 10th dimension/omniverse is just woo, a stretching of the known evidence we have?
No, the extra dimensions of string theory constitute a tentative model for the universe which will eventually either be confirmed or falsified by experimental results.
The woo was in that "consciousness causes stuff" in The Self Aware Universe book you were talking about.

Passer wrote:twistor59 wrote:Passer wrote:So the 10th dimension/omniverse is just woo, a stretching of the known evidence we have?
No, the extra dimensions of string theory constitute a tentative model for the universe which will eventually either be confirmed or falsified by experimental results.
The woo was in that "consciousness causes stuff" in The Self Aware Universe book you were talking about.
But wasn't there an experiment, which showed that atoms/waves/particles or whatever they were, begin to act differently when we observe them?

Zwaarddijk wrote:Passer wrote:twistor59 wrote:Passer wrote:So the 10th dimension/omniverse is just woo, a stretching of the known evidence we have?
No, the extra dimensions of string theory constitute a tentative model for the universe which will eventually either be confirmed or falsified by experimental results.
The woo was in that "consciousness causes stuff" in The Self Aware Universe book you were talking about.
But wasn't there an experiment, which showed that atoms/waves/particles or whatever they were, begin to act differently when we observe them?
no, they begin to act differently when they are measured. Which kind of is the same as 'they act different when they interact with other particles'. (Ultimately, taht bunch of particles also act differently, until you are in the same bunch of particles, to simplify the matter a lot)

Passer wrote:Zwaarddijk wrote:Passer wrote:twistor59 wrote:
No, the extra dimensions of string theory constitute a tentative model for the universe which will eventually either be confirmed or falsified by experimental results.
The woo was in that "consciousness causes stuff" in The Self Aware Universe book you were talking about.
But wasn't there an experiment, which showed that atoms/waves/particles or whatever they were, begin to act differently when we observe them?
no, they begin to act differently when they are measured. Which kind of is the same as 'they act different when they interact with other particles'. (Ultimately, taht bunch of particles also act differently, until you are in the same bunch of particles, to simplify the matter a lot)
"they begin to act differently when they are measured" That's still very amazing, not sure what it entails, but I find that fascinating. When you say 'measured', how would they do that exactly?


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