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#1  Postby starkiller » Dec 15, 2011 2:46 am

I was wondering, what if we used Trinary Logic to describe physics instead of Binary Logic? Would that give us insight into things we missed?
We have Trits
We have QuTrits.
Atom has a trinary configuration of particle types.
2 of the particles are made up of another trinary set of particles
Do Particles have a trinary state configuration, Negative, Postive and No charge?
Yeah I know it's crazy, just a what if.
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#2  Postby epepke » Dec 15, 2011 3:16 am

It's a trade-off. Once, a long time ago, someone decided that the best form of logic based on some particular criteria was e. Trinary logic systems have been devised, but the conclusions I've seen and agree with is that the benefit isn't really worth the extra complexity.

If one needs subtlety, one can use real- or complex-based logic, probabilistic or fuzzy. These kinds of logic are used in a lot of physics.
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#3  Postby starkiller » Dec 15, 2011 3:41 am

Maybe we don't know the full benefit, we have been stuck on binary as the base for a long time?
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#4  Postby cavarka9 » Dec 15, 2011 8:01 am

that could be true but people are interested in investing their time only if it is shown that it is significant to begin with, otherwise it bites the dust.
well, I have always felt that we are not limited by our compassion or by our passion or resources but by our economy.
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Re: Trinary?

#5  Postby starkiller » Dec 15, 2011 6:18 pm

True.
I wonder if one could come up with a trinary way of counting particles that might elude to particles not yet discovered?
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#6  Postby cavarka9 » Dec 15, 2011 7:52 pm

starkiller wrote:True.
I wonder if one could come up with a trinary way of counting particles that might elude to particles not yet discovered?

you cant make science in your preferred manner, it is what it is and we are here to figure it out in which ever manner it comes out.
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#7  Postby Calilasseia » Dec 15, 2011 8:37 pm

Ternary logics already exist. One of these being Kleene's logic, which has as its three possible states, true, false or unknown.
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#8  Postby Matt_B » Dec 15, 2011 8:54 pm

I don't think it makes any difference to the physics, although it's sometimes mathematically useful to work in ternary, or indeed all sorts of different bases.

Still, numbers are the same whatever base you choose to represent them in, and you can trivially represent a ternary digit in two binary digits simply by not using the fourth possible state much in the same way you can have binary coded decimals.
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#9  Postby starkiller » Dec 15, 2011 8:57 pm

cavarka9 wrote:
starkiller wrote:True.
I wonder if one could come up with a trinary way of counting particles that might elude to particles not yet discovered?

you cant make science in your preferred manner, it is what it is and we are here to figure it out in which ever manner it comes out.

I wasn't suggesting to make it in a preferred manner. I was suggesting maybe the manner we have went about it my not be as apt as a different manner in uncovering things.
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