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romansh wrote:A few years back I noticed that (in our meso world) pressure had the same units as energy density.
newolder wrote:An essay (5 pages-ish) by Prof. Freeman Dyson on the reticence of Maxwell and the similarity to the later development of quantum mechanics.
Starts with Modesty is not always a virtue
romansh wrote:I thought that was a neat essay.
A few years back I noticed that (in our meso world) pressure had the same units as energy density. (I understand Dyson is not referring to our meso world here). Strange thing is I don't recall ever having being taught that pressure can be seen as energy density, though it seems intuitively obvious.
I could be wrong, but I would surprised if the energy density changes significantly on a moment by moment basis in a star (our Sun), though at some point in a hopefully distant future all bets are off. I have read it takes hunderds of years for a photon to escape the core of our sun ... at least on average.
Macdoc wrote:
But plasma can be compressed and water cannot ( mostly apparently ). So you can have a plume of very hot very dense plasma rise through the sun and emerge as a CME
Energy density is the amount of energy stored in a given system or region of space per unit volume.
Team creates high-fidelity images of Sun's atmosphere - Phys.org
https://phys.org › Astronomy & Space › Astronomy
Jul 18, 2018 - Team creates high-fidelity images of Sun's atmosphere. July 18 .... "We should expect steep fluctuations in density, magnetic fluctuations and reconnection ... Explore further: STEREO maps much larger solar atmosphere than .
Air pressure is independent of elevation?
Hot water does not convect?
Macdoc wrote:Hot water does not convect?
Yes but pressure doesn't change significantly the way a gas does and it is entirely temperature dependent - very hard to compress further unlike a gas or a plasma.
Evolving wrote:newolder wrote:An essay (5 pages-ish) by Prof. Freeman Dyson on the reticence of Maxwell and the similarity to the later development of quantum mechanics.
Starts with Modesty is not always a virtue
That link won't open for me. Is it because I'm not user tong?
EDIT: I've searched the DAMTP website and on this page
https://search.cam.ac.uk/web?tag=alldamtp&query=Dyson%20Maxwell&inst=DAMTP&x=14&y=13
the Dyson Maxwell article is listed. Can't open it there either, though. Maybe it's me.
Macdoc wrote:Thanks I can usually visualize processes without having the underlying math.
Had a good discussion on another forum about the important of visuals in explaining concepts - he was absolutely fixed on "you must have the math" and the visuals were immaterial and several of us disagreed.
After all it was thought experiments that led Einstein and THEN he did the math to prove it. I figure you need the math to use a concept but necessarily to understand one.
ie images or even animated illustrations of processes in a nuclear plant are very useful and understandable but the math exceedingly complex.
So I can visualize what's going on in balloon or star without being to quantitize it....if that makes sense.
I find some of the animated explanations of physical principles fascinating and in particular complex systems like AGW/Atomosphere processes benefit understanding more than
Net Radiation = Q* = total in - total out
newolder wrote:I have no problem with your discussion of stellar interiors using EM theory but I think it should be in a more specialised topic that this. Just saying.
newolder wrote:Evolving wrote:newolder wrote:An essay (5 pages-ish) by Prof. Freeman Dyson on the reticence of Maxwell and the similarity to the later development of quantum mechanics.
Starts with Modesty is not always a virtue
That link won't open for me. Is it because I'm not user tong?
EDIT: I've searched the DAMTP website and on this page
https://search.cam.ac.uk/web?tag=alldamtp&query=Dyson%20Maxwell&inst=DAMTP&x=14&y=13
the Dyson Maxwell article is listed. Can't open it there either, though. Maybe it's me.
I missed this one - apologies. I have no idea why a link to a pdf won't open for you. What browser are you using? Does it require a pdf reader plug-in that you may not have installed?
How do you normally access pdfs in the arXivs?
newolder wrote:
I have no problem with your discussion of stellar interiors using EM theory but I think it should be in a more specialised topic that this. Just saying.
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