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Re: Shooting at Munich Shopping Centre

#21  Postby NineBerry » Jul 22, 2016 11:03 pm

One of the nine probably the attacker
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Re: Shooting at Munich Shopping Centre

#22  Postby NineBerry » Jul 22, 2016 11:13 pm

Press conference announced 50 minutes from now
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Re: Shooting at Munich Shopping Centre

#23  Postby NineBerry » Jul 22, 2016 11:15 pm

Public Transport Starts again. Seems to be a hint that Police think danger is over
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Re: Shooting at Munich Shopping Centre

#24  Postby tuco » Jul 22, 2016 11:23 pm

dochmbi wrote:Balcony Man has got balls of steel or a big gun. Either that, or he is feeling suicidal, provoking the rage of a spree killer.


Or one of those "knee-jerk" situations when humans act without regards for own life nor logical action. Think jumping into wild river to safe another.
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Re: Shooting at Munich Shopping Centre

#25  Postby NineBerry » Jul 22, 2016 11:33 pm

Police say only one attacker who is among the nine Dead after killing himself.
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Re: Shooting at Munich Shopping Centre

#26  Postby NineBerry » Jul 23, 2016 12:25 am

Attacker was 18 year old German born of Iranian descend. Motivation still unclear.
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Re: Shooting at Munich Shopping Centre

#27  Postby Macdoc » Jul 23, 2016 1:12 am

Balcony guy might have saved a few lives holding the shooters attention ....shooter appears mentally disturbed.....
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Re: Shooting at Munich Shopping Centre

#28  Postby Rumraket » Jul 23, 2016 6:32 am

NineBerry wrote:Attacker was 18 year old German born of Iranian descend. Motivation still unclear.

Won't be hard to guess what his motivation was I'm sorry to say.
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Re: 'Shots fired' in Munich shopping centre, German police deplo

#29  Postby NineBerry » Jul 23, 2016 9:45 am

Don't jump to conclusions. Many of the Iranians I have met in Germany are very anti-Islam. There are some hints ( but nothing confirmed so far) that the Attacker specifically targeted Turkish victims.
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Re: 'Shots fired' in Munich shopping centre, German police deplo

#30  Postby NineBerry » Jul 23, 2016 9:59 am

Police say they found no connection to political or religious ideologies but lots of Materials on past School Shootings in the attacker's Apartment.
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Re: 'Shots fired' in Munich shopping centre, German police deplo

#31  Postby NineBerry » Jul 23, 2016 10:06 am

Police confirm that he had been in Psychiatric treatment. Only Police Records on him had him as a victim, one was a reported Theft, the Other had him as the victim of a physical attack by Other students. Nearly all of the victims were teenagers.
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Re: 'Shots fired' in Munich shopping centre, German police deplo

#32  Postby Alan B » Jul 23, 2016 10:26 am

Police say he had a 9mm Glock with the s/n removed and about 200 rounds in his rucksack. It seems he was a delusional sad teenager with an unhealthy interest in 'mass shootings'.
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Re: 'Shots fired' in Munich shopping centre, German police deplo

#33  Postby NineBerry » Jul 23, 2016 11:44 am

At least six of the eight teenagers killed probably had a Muslim background. Three from a Turkish background. Three from a Kosovo background.

An unconfirmed Story is that the attacker has for months posed as a Turkish girl on facebook befriending Other young people with Muslim background. The Facebook Account has yesterday over day called on people to go to the mc Donalds for a meetup.
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Re: 'Shots fired' in Munich shopping centre, German police deplo

#34  Postby Macdoc » Jul 23, 2016 12:24 pm

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Re: 'Shots fired' in Munich shopping centre, German police deplo

#35  Postby NineBerry » Jul 23, 2016 1:26 pm

I notice that English Media Call the attacker Ali S. While the German Media use the name David S. An explanation was just given in a press conference by the interior minister: the attacker was originally called Ali but changed his name to David after converting to Christianity. the
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Re: Shooting at Munich Shopping Centre

#36  Postby Acetone » Jul 23, 2016 2:26 pm

Rumraket wrote:
NineBerry wrote:Attacker was 18 year old German born of Iranian descend. Motivation still unclear.

Won't be hard to guess what his motivation was I'm sorry to say.

It won't be eh?

I'm curious what's your guess? Just come out and say it don't be coy.
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Re: 'Shots fired' in Munich shopping centre, German police deplo

#37  Postby Macdoc » Jul 23, 2016 5:10 pm

I'm interested as well. :popcorn:
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Re: 'Shots fired' in Munich shopping centre, German police deplo

#38  Postby NineBerry » Jul 24, 2016 1:17 pm

The point about conversion to Christianity is not confirmed. Seems to be another case of our interior minister De Maiziere pulling fact out of thin air during a press conference. Still, "David" is the official name, not "Ali". Guy seems to have been non-religious, but "friends" report that he expressed nationalistic ideas, anti-turkish ideas and anti-semitic ideas.

Those friends (actually just members of an online gaming clan that he had joined) and class mates also report previous threats of committing a shooting.

He had been in a mental hospital for two months in 2015 and since still been under treatment for social phobias and depression.

The attack has been planned for more than one year. He had visited the scenes of the Winnenden school shooting (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winnenden_school_shooting) some months ago (photos of these settings were found on his digital camera).

Gun and munition were bought via the darknet. 7 of the 9 killed were killed from close proximity and within the first two minutes. Besides the other two killed with the gun were only three other persons wounded by the gun. All the other people wounded were not wounded by the attacker but suffered from the mass panic, some even kilometres away from the settings when there were rumours about a shooting and people paniced. So, the guy was not a very good shot. Only killing from close proximity using surprise factor.
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Re: 'Shots fired' in Munich shopping centre, German police deplo

#39  Postby willhud9 » Jul 24, 2016 11:42 pm

How hard is it to get a gun off of the darknet?
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Re: 'Shots fired' in Munich shopping centre, German police deplo

#40  Postby NineBerry » Jul 25, 2016 2:09 am

Don't know. I haven't tried
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